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Post by SMBBQ on Jul 26, 2010 10:29:42 GMT -5
So where exactly did you find evidence that Dark Land is a small island? I've never seen evidence to support that theory.
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Post by Meta Black Yoshi on Jul 26, 2010 11:51:05 GMT -5
I was wondering the same thing. Just to be sure, we are talking about world 8 from SMB3 right? Bowser's Badlands seems to have both at least one sea of lava and at least one sea of water according to MG:TT, not sure where that puts his main castles though.
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Post by Koopalmier on Jul 26, 2010 15:31:28 GMT -5
Oh, gosh... don't tell me you people can't even remember the SMB3 map ?  Okay, it's not ridiculously small like Lavalava Island, and it's bigger than two kingdoms, but it's still very small in comparison of a place like the Mushroom Kingdom. Also, @above poster : MG:TT may not be canon, and even if it is Bowser's Badlands is not Dark Land because - well, there's grass, that's already enough. |
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Post by kingkoopa on Jul 26, 2010 15:45:13 GMT -5
Well on the topic of the Super Mario Bros 3 map do you think that those 3 pieces of land on the left of the map that continue offscreen are connected? (Grass land, Desert Hill, and that other piece of land)
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Post by Koopalmier on Jul 26, 2010 15:53:39 GMT -5
Due to the location of Desert Hill, it is possible that it is near the planet's equator and thus the SMB3 map would be on the south-east of the continent and the 3 pieces of land would thus be connected.
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Post by kingkoopa on Jul 26, 2010 16:00:05 GMT -5
So if the SMB3 lands are in the south-eastern part of the continent, I wonder where the Mushroom Kingdom is.
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Post by EpicGyllynn on Jul 26, 2010 16:13:19 GMT -5
Yes, KingKoopa! I think that(As I have previously) that Desert Land(Which I call Desert Hill) is the Eastern part of DryDry Desert, and Grass Land(Obviously a play on Grassland) is the Eastern part of Mushroom Plains. I think that Water Land(A.K.A Sparkle Shores) is East of the Toxic Forest(As stated in our NSMBW Discussion), which is South of Mushroom Plains and East of the StoneHead Mountains. That may be a little too much Info, but your question was Answered! As for Toadstool Tour, Koopalmier is right, we can't even be sure if it's Canon, but even if it is, Bowsers Badlands is NOT Dark Land(Also known as the Koopa Kingdom)!
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Post by kingkoopa on Jul 26, 2010 18:55:01 GMT -5
And I'm guessing that the Shiver region would be to the north of all of that
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Post by EpicGyllynn on Jul 26, 2010 22:05:29 GMT -5
Wow. I can't believe I forgot Shiver Snowfields! Thats easily one of the coolest(No Pun Intended) Regions! Well, I suppose now is as good a time as any to Discuss the Location of the Rougeport Region. I have two Theories right now:
1)It's an Island.
2)It shares its North-Eastern Border(The Tundra where Fahr-Outpost is Located) with Shiver Snowfields, but they are two, Distinct Regions!
While the Second Theory makes sense, I'm leaning toward it being an Island.
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Post by EpicGyllynn on Jul 27, 2010 0:37:17 GMT -5
Okay, everybody! Seeing as the only Region we can all agree on is Mushroom Plains, so I propose we make a List of all Locations in said Region! I'll start by naming some off the top of my Head:
-Toad Town & Mushroom Castle.
-Tadpole Pond.
-Koopa Village.
-Goomba Village.
-Rose Town.
-Mushroom Gorge(Not the RaceTrack; W1-5 from NSMBWii)
-Toadwood Forest/Forest Maze.
-Forever Forest.
-Booster Valley(Includes the Hill and Tower).
-MoleVille.
-MarryMore Town.
-Mushroom City.
-Flower Fields.
-Thwomp Valcano.
-Bubble Lake.
-Dimble Woods.
-Plack Beach.
-Gritzy Desert.
-Cavi Cape Caverns.
Well, thats all I can think of for now, if I missed any let me know, and feel free to critisize(Constructively!).
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Post by SMBBQ on Jul 27, 2010 10:04:39 GMT -5
Well, I don't think we should list the SMRPG locations as on the mainland. After all, if you look closely during the case leading up to Marrymore, you can see the other locations from the game in the background of what appears to be an ocean, suggesting they're all islands. That also leads to my theory that the M&L:BiS locations are also on islands. You start on the mainland, head south and eventually progress to Bowser's Castle.(Which is actually the backdoor to Bowser's Keep from SMRPG) If you find any holes in my theory, pkease tell me!  |
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Post by PDoogan on Jul 27, 2010 11:42:11 GMT -5
Woah, that was a heck of a lot of stuff to read. I'm going to try to answer as much of this as I can:
-The best comparison Ive seen between to maps in a Mario game in the SMB3 world map and the Paper Mario map. The PM map bears a stunning resemblance to grassland on the SMB3 world map. That's where I started and moved out from there. This means the mushroom castle is in the northwest of the MK. (You can see this in the map I drew.)
-One map i found nearly impossible to integrate with the others is the SMRPG one. For starters, everything seems to be floating, and no matter how i place it, it just doesn't fit up with any other map. This is really the only major game i left out of my personal map.
-The NSMB series came out after I made my map so I don't have the locations of the mountains and jungle worlds. If i had to guess, I'd say they're probably withing the SMB3 map somewhere (lower skyland may be the mountains?)
-I always assumed that all the "Bowser worlds" are the same place (SMB3 darkland) It may not be huge, but there's defiantly enough room for all the locations shown.
-I can't envision the BiS map right now, I'll get back to you on that one...
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Post by pseudodino on Jul 27, 2010 12:06:02 GMT -5
Luigi's adventure wasn't in the Waffle Kingdom. Well, I mean, not entirely. Considering he goes on three different continents (the one where the kingdom is + the Strudel continent + the Waffle continent). Who says? Maybe the Waffle Kingdom is in multiple continents like Russia. |
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Post by EpicGyllynn on Jul 27, 2010 12:41:31 GMT -5
-I made the same comparison not long before I started this Thread. That's why I made the assumption that the Grasslands and Desert(Desert Hill) where in the East of the Paper Mario lands, however, Iced Land (We need a nickname for That) is not the Shiver Region because of two Factors: 1) It is depicted on an Island, while Shiver Snowfields is depicted as being a part of the Mainland. 2) Because Shiver Snowfields is mostly land covered with Snow, while in Iced Land, the amount of Ice Sheets far exceeds the amount of actual land. -The map in SMRPG was made by Square, and at that time it was the only Map of the Mushroom Kingdom e had seen, it has since then been contradicted by Game Maps developed by Nintendo themselves. If we are to believe that "The Mushroom Kingdom" from SMRPG is Toad Town(Which it Is!), then It's safe to assume that a lot of the SMRPG locations takes place in the surrounding Area(Mushroom Plains). -I don't really have the authority to contradict the mountains being on Fluffy Bluff Island(A stupid Nickname for lower Sky Land), other than the Fact that Mario would have to travel all the way back to the Ocean. Why, because W4(NSMBWii) depicts Mario as heading in-land(The landmass where the Castle is, is the Mainland), then heading into W5. So W5 has to be on the mainland, then Mario would have to Travel back out to the Sea, and find some means for transportation! Of course, I suppose it doesn't make much less sense then Bowser Jr. flying to the Desert, then heading North only to go South to the Isles. Ah well, maybe he is just trying to get Mario tired by dragging him all over the Place! -I agree. It's easily large enough to be the Final location in most games. But Bowsers' Keep(SMRPG) is in the Mushroom Kingdom, not Koopa Kingdom(Dark Land). -Heres the Link for everyone to Use: www.mariowiki.com/images/3/35/MLRPG3_Map.pngThe City is Toad Town, the Water is Bubble Lake, that.. Yellow thing is Cavi Cape, the Beach(It's actually not an Island) is Plack Beach, the Forest is Dimble Woods, and Bowsers' Castle is, well, Bowsers' Castle(In the Koopa Kingdom). Also on a side note, the curvy Path leading to it looks just like the one seen in paper Mario:TTYD and, more recently, New Super Mario Bros. Wii. just saying. |
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Post by EpicGyllynn on Jul 27, 2010 12:43:38 GMT -5
Luigi's adventure wasn't in the Waffle Kingdom. Well, I mean, not entirely. Considering he goes on three different continents (the one where the kingdom is + the Strudel continent + the Waffle continent). Who says? Maybe the Waffle Kingdom is in multiple continents like Russia. Like I said, PsuedoDino, according to Luigi, they are apart of the Waffle Kingdom, but I still think Luigi was just telling a Tale. |
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Post by kingkoopa on Jul 27, 2010 15:59:55 GMT -5
His partners would agree that Luigi was on an adventure, but many of the details in his story were eggagerated to make Luigi look braver than he actually was. For all we know the Waffle Kingdom could be some tiny island off the coast of Rougeport.
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Post by EpicGyllynn on Jul 27, 2010 17:21:15 GMT -5
See thats exactly what I was thinking, KingKoopa. At best I'd say it was a Chain of small Islands off the coast.
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Post by EpicGyllynn on Jul 27, 2010 18:09:50 GMT -5
Hey, i just realized something! We completely left out SM64 locations! You can't talk about MEGeo without discussing the Paintings! Well, lets get started: Are they Paintings, or Warps to actual Locations? I'm leaning toward Warps right now but I'm not really sure!
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Post by PDoogan on Jul 27, 2010 19:20:33 GMT -5
I always thought they were warps. This seems to be confirmed by the throwback galaxy in SMG2.
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Post by EpicGyllynn on Jul 27, 2010 19:38:33 GMT -5
Yeah. Oh, speaking of which that ALSO supports my "Galaxies from SMG/SMG2 are from ME" Theory! Thanks for reminding me!
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