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Post by Yoshi Master on Nov 8, 2005 19:32:49 GMT -5
It still hardly matters since the racetracks have never been repeated in another game ( right? ).
Plus wern't we trying to figure out how big the Mushroom Kingdom and Yoshi's Island is?
We can't find the length since Mario never rode a kart across them.
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Post by Toomai on Nov 8, 2005 20:16:25 GMT -5
So? If we can figure out character size in Kart, then we can copy that into "normal" games and see is the answers are reasonable.
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Post by Yoshi Master on Nov 8, 2005 20:31:48 GMT -5
So? If we can figure out character size in Kart, then we can copy that into "normal" games and see is the answers are reasonable. ... Charecter size in Kart? What did that have to do with distance? |
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Post by Toomai on Nov 8, 2005 20:36:46 GMT -5
Once you know how big a character is, you can figure out the size of their environement.
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Post by Yoshi Master on Nov 9, 2005 11:50:19 GMT -5
I'm gonna play Paper Mario some time and figure out how long the Mushroom Kingdom is.
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Post by Claws on Nov 10, 2005 9:10:47 GMT -5
I see what you're talking about, Toomai. Very interesting work. You too, Pdoogan--I guess we have proof that the SMB3 worlds are located off the coast of the PM continent.
Toomai, if we know the straightway of Baby Park is 145m long, how exactly are we to figure out how large the charactes are? We can estimate, but I'm not sure how exact we could measure without having an aerial, side by side comparison. Perhaps that's possible, though, if we take an aerial picture of the Baby Park track from the player's guide, divide its straightway evenly into 145 meters, and then superimpose an estimation of Mario's size relative to Baby Park on the Baby Park aerial shot. That should give us a pretty accurate size comparison. And then from there, as you said, we can use that measurement of Mario's size to figure out how large the environments of other games are.
Anyone have the Mario Kart: Double Dash!! player's guide? Preferably, the Nintendo Power one?
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Post by Toomai on Nov 10, 2005 16:16:45 GMT -5
How about a screenshot of when the camera's panning before you race it in a GP?
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Post by Kamikaze Koopa on Nov 10, 2005 17:21:21 GMT -5
Interesting.
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Post by philzero on Nov 11, 2005 8:33:30 GMT -5
i saw the two maps pdoogan and you bring up a very interesting subject the comparison is uncanny
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Post by Claws on Nov 15, 2005 9:53:30 GMT -5
Toomai, that would probably work. I think we'll be hard-pressed to find the exact screenshot we need, though.
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Post by Claws on Dec 4, 2005 22:40:31 GMT -5
Well, let's do some math. 56mph = 90kmph. (I work in metric.) If a kart can go 90 kilometres in an hour, then it can go 1.5km (0.93miles) in a minute. It takes about 1'20" to race Baby Park, meaning they travel 2km (1.24miles). Being 7 laps, Baby Park is then 290m (316.8yards) long, leaving about 145m (158.57yards) for the straightway. Now my brain is tired, but we can then figure out sizes of characters, and then other locations. I found an aerial view of Baby Park in an old Nintendo Power and snapped a photo of it (my scanner's broken at the moment). In the image I have marked where I'm guessing the 145m straightway is. If this is the correct area, we can then follow the procedure I laid out in my last post to find the size of the characters. |
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Post by Toomai on Dec 5, 2005 16:06:51 GMT -5
It looks like a DD kart would fit onto the black arrow at the start line.
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Post by Claws on Dec 6, 2005 11:59:40 GMT -5
I was estimating a kart to be a bit smaller than that. But I'm going to measure it all out as soon as possible, so that should help.
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Post by philzero on Dec 8, 2005 11:39:47 GMT -5
i like to use bowser or baby bowser on that track ooh the best combination on that track on dbl dash is baby bowser and baby mario
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Post by Yoshi Master on Jan 12, 2006 12:51:34 GMT -5
Good news I tested the distance in PM from Dry Dry Outpost to the farthest area left of Goomba Village.
I'm at school so I'll show the numbers later.
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Post by Toomai on Jan 12, 2006 18:01:31 GMT -5
Make sure to remember it's not a straight line...
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Post by ¥0shi Guru on Jan 12, 2006 18:11:24 GMT -5
hmm.... we could just ask nintendo very nicely on their forums!!!
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Post by PDoogan on Jan 12, 2006 18:17:18 GMT -5
I don't think Nintendo would know (or care for that matter) how large the Paper Mario map is. They made the game, but I doubt they keep a file cabinet of statistics on hand for a game on a console they don't even make anymore...
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Post by ¥0shi Guru on Jan 12, 2006 18:27:07 GMT -5
hm... ask a sprite website if they know ask jeeves or ask Yahoo! or even go to google!
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Post by Toomai on Jan 12, 2006 19:24:31 GMT -5
But not the whole game is made of octagons. Some parts are linear.
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