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Post by PDoogan on Aug 27, 2010 19:42:25 GMT -5
Being in a different dimension (or between one) Means that the physics are probably different then they would be on Earth, this could mean that the flip-flop people evolved floaty part to suit their environment.
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Post by Vent on Aug 27, 2010 19:51:03 GMT -5
Not parralel dimensions. Different dimensions (although they look much more like sub-dimensions). There's a big difference there. You're being pedantic again. |
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Post by Koopalmier on Aug 27, 2010 19:54:24 GMT -5
Nope. There is a BIG difference between a parralel dimension and a completely different one. There also is a big difference between a ghost and a spirit that never had a body to start with. I don't see why you say I'm "pedantic".
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Post by Vent on Aug 27, 2010 19:57:25 GMT -5
Because you are. Why aren't we allowed to use general terminology in reference to these things?
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Post by Koopalmier on Aug 27, 2010 20:11:39 GMT -5
... What is "general terminology" ?
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Post by Vent on Aug 27, 2010 20:15:51 GMT -5
You know, using a term that isn't as specific as it should be just for ease of communication.
For somebody so hyped up on literal definitions, you aren't very literate.
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Post by Koopalmier on Aug 27, 2010 20:17:35 GMT -5
How am I supposed to know about that ? We use precise terms at school.
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Post by Vent on Aug 27, 2010 20:28:45 GMT -5
Like I said, for someone who's so gung-ho on "precise terms", you don't know a whole lot of terms to be precise with.
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Post by SMBBQ on Aug 27, 2010 20:55:40 GMT -5
Dude, quit sippin' on the haterade! (See what I did there?)
In all seriousness, Koop's right. There actually is a difference between a parallel dimension (Which would resemble our reality, or in this case Mario's), and a different dimension altogether.
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Post by Artemendo on Aug 28, 2010 0:35:38 GMT -5
I think every dimension that's not the one we're in is a different one. You know, pet the definition of "different" meaning "not the same exact thing". I like Russian for having two distinct words for different as "not identical" and "not similar"... but I propose we can just use "parallel dimension" for something similar to ours, like the Mushroom World, and "orthogonal dimension" for something vastly dissimilar. After all, orthogonal is the opposite of parallel.
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Post by cheat-master30 on Aug 28, 2010 7:13:56 GMT -5
To be fair, it's not like Mushroom Kingdom/World/Mario's universe is that similar to ours. The instances of difference physics when counted would make your head explode.
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Post by Koopalmier on Aug 28, 2010 7:36:13 GMT -5
Like I said, for someone who's so gung-ho on "precise terms", you don't know a whole lot of terms to be precise with. Just say I'm an ignorant. That wouldn't be an insult, considering it's true. And, the "Marioverse" was hinted many times to be in the same universe as the Kirby series, which itself is (fictionally) in the same universe as our's. The explanation ? It's an alien planet, with matters that don't exist on Earth, such as magic (which would be considered as a matter). |
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Post by Vent on Aug 28, 2010 15:40:14 GMT -5
...Tell me you're not serious about that last part.
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Post by Koopalmier on Aug 28, 2010 16:29:11 GMT -5
Surprisingly, I wasn't. But it's a possibility that, in the Nintendoverse, magic exists but not on Earth for some reasons.
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Post by Vent on Aug 28, 2010 19:16:13 GMT -5
Because Earth is a real place and Mario's plant isn't.
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Post by SMBBQ on Aug 28, 2010 19:59:17 GMT -5
Because Earth is a real place and Mario's planet isn't. Here we go again... DINOSAUR, please try to at least pretend you're interested in debating the Marioverse realisticly. |
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Post by Koopalmier on Aug 29, 2010 6:41:00 GMT -5
Because Earth is a real place and Mario's plant isn't. On this forum, we try to make sense out of the Marioverse (surprisingly enough, it tends to work). To do so, we must do as if Mario's planet existed. As if the Nintendoverse existed. To apply the real laws of physics on it. Magic must be the last explanation possible, while "it's just a video game / who cares, it's fictional" must be avoided. Or else we could just say "it's a video game, it doesn't exist, there, I answered every question ever". We shouldn't forget it's still fictional though, and thus some things can be explained by being gameplay elements. Which isn't the case here. |
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Post by Artemendo on Aug 29, 2010 7:01:35 GMT -5
There's also the aspect of gameplay, something worlds created by books and movies don't have. It gives us things like Mario and Luigi blocks in a country that doesn't know about Mario and Luigi, it's divorced from the actual story.
We must assume good faith on part of the programmers, that they want to create a world that makes as much sense as possible, and gameplay is the last explanation. Magic is a good explanation for some things, after all, a lot is said to be magic, and there are many magic users. Still, it's "try to make sense" first, "magic" second, "gameplay" last.
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Post by Vent on Aug 29, 2010 10:15:55 GMT -5
I was half-kidding with that last statement, but whatever...
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Post by SMBBQ on Aug 29, 2010 11:42:36 GMT -5
But you answer like that so much, it's hard to tell when you're kidding and when you aren't
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