Something's not right with Yoshi's Island DS

[Le Mario Bro]

That's what I'm saying.

[Vent]

That's what I said, but apparently I didn't go into enough detail regarding their diapers of all things.

[Koopalmier]

How can you make sense out of the Mario series if you ignore things that aren't big enough for you ? I mean, do you also ignore that the money used in the MK is the G (stands for Gold), and that a coin equals 5.000 G, simply because it was an "unimportant detal" ? (FYI, it is shown in Luigi's Mansion)

[Artemendo]

That "G" thing can be ignored because it appears in only one game, while ALL OTHERS use coins. When we have the option to believe Luigi's Mansion or everything else, I choose everything else, thank you.

[Koopalmier]

Anything else doesn't contradicts it though. There's the simple system (1 coin) and the complicated one (5.000 G). A bit like how 1 dollar equals 100 cents.

[Artemendo]

But that system is a load of bull, excuse me! We know one coin can hardly buy a thing, and five coins is the average price of one mushroom, so that's what, 25,000 of those G? Reminds me of Zimbabwean inflation. Also, NO OTHER GAME HAS USED IT. Maybe it's something E. Gadd invented to be able to appraise the treasures in the mansion.

[Koopalmier]

Japan money uses something similar though. I mean, big numbers and stuff for little money. Let's say it's simply a more complicated system. Plus it's not mentioned in other games because, well, first, the system of coins make it so much more simple, and "I need 3 coins" sounds way better than "I need 20.000 G".

[Artemendo]

Look, this "G" thing is simply ridiculous. The coin is the smallest currency, since it's ONE. COIN. Nothing ever even cost one coin, so why have something FIVE THOUSAND TIMES SMALLER?! We have approximately 100 games all using coins, 20 games where you can go into shops and buy stuff with coins, some games that explicitly say coins are the official currency, some games that have businessmen talking about coins - COINS! And that "G" seems to be completely restricted to the mansion area, the mansion coins even have "G" on them - maybe it's from an ancient time where G was a currency and humans were around? Or, since the mansion appeared out of nowhere, it might be an alternate dimension with humans and G. So, anyway, seriously, claiming we should consider "G" to be canon is like saying Mario is evil just because he was evil in one game.

[Koopalmier]

Wait, there's a G on those coins ? I always saw a I. Well, you're right then, it must be something like ghostly money (the mansion IS made by Boos after all). Sorry...

[Meta Black Yoshi]

Or perhaps its just an old currency that isn't used anymore. The mansion is old after all, right?

But it seems like less of a type of currency and more of a measurements system than anything else. After all there are no "G's" in the game right? Except for maybe Slim Bankshot and Mr. Luggs. >.>

So perhaps it stands for the amount of gold (or some other worth carrying material) in weight that something is worth or some other such physical and measurable standard.

Even so it would still seem that it doesn't make much sense for the standard unit to be worth so little, but perhaps in the past when this system was introduced, gold and other rare materials were a lot less common and people were generally more poor, and things cost less giving more worth to gold etc. Also, remember that stuff in the Mario universe tends to weigh little and even float, so if were talking in say RW/earth units it may become more reasonable for weight or I should say mass of small (likely very dense) objects to be of proportionally larger values. (E. Gadd is a human, and he does seem "out of place" in the MW). And when we look at the coins of Luigi's Mansion, gravity even seems to have a more natural affect on them so could this mean that the coins found in LM are denser and heaver and are actually worth a bit more than the more floaty coins found in other Mario games??

Whether any of that's true or not, it still doesn't really seem to make since for that unit to have even been included in the game. I guess the developers just put it in there to make the numbers look bigger.

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Actually, if you really look at the numbers and think about it it kind of starts to make sense. Just imagine that the LM coin is the standard unit. Then one bill would be worth 4 coins, a gold bar would be worth 20 coins or 5 bills, a big pear would only be worth 200 coins, it makes the most valuable items seem a lot less valuable, and I can sort of understand why the developers didn't simply make the valuable items worth more, as that would have altered the game's scoring system, and giving the player more value for finding some rare object than they would have wanted. The developers wanted these items to be something common in the mansion so they kept there worth "relatively small" and to compensate they introduced a small unit to make it seem like every item was worth a lot......of something.....
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In any case, there are definitely other things in the Mario universe that make a lot less sense. For instance, note that a large ruby is apparently worth a lot less than a small ruby. :/

Gold Coin: 5,000 G
Bill: 20,000 G
Gold Bar: 100,000 G
Sapphire (Blue Stone): 500,000 G
Emerald (Green Stone): 800,000 G
Small Ruby (Red Stone): 1,000,000 G
Diamond: 2,000,000 G
Large Ruby (King Boo's Crown): 5,000 G
Topaz (Gold Diamond): 20,000,000 G
Small Pearl: 50,000 G
Medium Pearl: 100,000 G
Big Pearl: 1,000,000 G

who knows what they did as children and teenagers.

At some point in time, Mario and Luigi somehow ended up in the RW, where they went through school. Eventually, Mario went on to university to study medicine, and Luigi went on to study Law and they both minored in engineering. There was a depression going on at the time they received their degrees and so there weren't many jobs going around, but they managed to get hired on as construction workers by a New York Contractor. After an encounter with a wild Ape, they decided that their current job was too dangerous and weird, and the brother started their own small company, 'Mario Plumbing,' which they ran together for a few years.

[Meta Black Yoshi]

Also, about Mario being fat. He's actually been losing a lot of weight recently, and is currently at a fairly healthy size. It's possible that he's gone on a diet, or it could just be that's hes been getting a lot of exercise saving the world, the galaxy, the universe,.... all dimensions, you know, all of existence and such.

[Koopalmier]

Or he listened what the Star Gate told him in M&L2. You know, to eat pasta without sauce.

Or it must have something to do with the 14 578 sports Mario's a champion in.

[Artemendo]

Mario hasn't been "losing weight", it's just the usage of the same character model from Super Mario Sunshine/Galaxy in all games, even the 2D ones. Back in the day, Mario being exactly 1:2 in his proportions because of the tiles meant he was fat, now they can use the same thinner model again and again. Note how in games that don't use that model (Paper Mario etc.) he's still fat.

[Koopalmier]

He's not fat in Paper Mario. He lacks legs. But, anyway, "slighty overweight" would work better than "fat". Mario was fat in SMB3, for sure. Although I think that's only because the sprites were... uh... bad.

[Meta Black Yoshi]

Actually, I was (jokingly) more going off of the instruction manual art. The newer art seems to depict Mario as being thinner than in the past art. I think its a bit easier to compare the official art rather than the actual game sprite, because of graphical limitations like you said, and the fact that Mario tends to drastically change size a lot within some of the games.

You're right though, he does seem a bit chubbier in the PM series, even in the official art.( Well he looks exactly the same as the sprite, also younger somehow). Could be attributed to stylization of the game.

I also want to point out that Mario doesn't seem to talk about pasta and food as much as he did.
Koopalmier makes a good point about the sports games, but I wonder, why don't Bowser and Wario ever seem to lose weight? Lol, Bowser actually seems to be gaining weight.



BTW, I recently got SMG2. Finally! Hurray!! Finished the game except for the last world and the ? stars. I'm not with the game right now and it
ll probably be a while before I can play it again.

[Vent]

If M&L3 is any indication, Bowser eats gigantic plates of food every day without ever exercising, while WL4 indicated that Wario eats roughly 50 meals a day. Is it any wonder they never lose weight?

[Koopalmier]

Actually Bowser doesn't, considering he says it was "his dream" around the scene where he eats Fawful's food and goes fat. We know he only eats meat though, and I somewhat doubt he ever exercises.

[Artemendo]

Bowser DOES exercise... he has that underground tennis practice lab and stuff. Just because in some games, he's told to watch his blood pressure doesn't mean he sits around all day.

[Koopalmier]

That underground tennis practice was so that he could make his plan to hijack the finale of the tournament. I don't think that he doesn't want to exercise, but rather that he doesn't think about it. I rather think he wastes his days by making "evil genius plans" (see: ill-fated plans about kidnapping Peach) to take over the world.

[Vent]

He probably eats more than he exercises anyway.