Power Stars!!

[Koopalmier]

Or it's simply different versions of the house. You can make a single version of it by merging the M&L version, the PM version and the version briefly seen in the JAP MKDS commercial to make one single house. As for Mario's Pad, it's very small and most likely just a placeholder.

[EpicGyllynn]

Or it could have been just recently Built. Warning. The Following is based on My Theory that Mario lived in Mushroom City prior to the Events of SMB: After the Princess got kidnapped in SMB3, Mario decided to move near Toad Town, so Peach had a House constructed for them while they were on Vacation(In the Dinosaur Isles). And the House he was staying in was just Temporary, until the Real House(The one seen in M&L, PM, and Japanese MKDS commercial) was complete. So basically a Placeholder, only explained via In-Universe reasoning.

[Artemendo]

Mario's Pad was simply a way to show their house without having to model/sprite Luigi at all, since the game was made with avoiding Luigi in mind.

[EpicGyllynn]

I said that, only I explained it. Like we are supposed to do.

[Artemendo]

Nnnnno, you didn't say the same thing I said, and thank you very much for calling my perfectly rational out-of-universe explanation a non-explanation. This is Mariology, not "we pretend Mario is real and Nintendo and other companies that create the games don't exist"-ology.

[EpicGyllynn]

Hey Claws, good to see you.

I guess I'll start out with an introduction. For those who don't know, my name is Kamikaze Koopa and I created this site as a place for people to come and have serious (for the most part ) discussions about Mariology. In case some of you might be unaware, Mariology is a fictional term that makes reference to the in universe study of the Super Mario videogame series. The term "in universe" means "as if it were real". For example, if somebody were going to have an "in universe" discussion about a movie, then they would discuss the characters and the world that they existed in as opposed to the actors and film-makers.

In some instances you may see the word "canon" being used. Canon basically means "true" or "having actually happened". For example, if a person says that "this scene is not canon" in regards to a movie, he would mean that that scene did not actually happen and should be disregarded as part of the actual storyline. Keep in mind, however, that what one persons considers canon may not be canon to somebody else. It is completely up to the individual and is free to be debated. Such debates are one of the reasons I created this site, so please if you have an opinion on something Mario-related then bring it up and see what happens. ^_^

Ok, that about does it for my introduction. New members should feel free to post their own intros in this thread. Don't be shy.

Read what KK originally intended the Site to be.

[Koopalmier]

Also Mario didn't live in Mushroom City before SMB3. You see that "fortress" at the very start of SMB:TLL ? I bet the ice cream I'm currently eating that it's Mario's house. And he has a castle at a moment anyway (SML2).

And as Artemendo said, we shouldn't forget the Mario series is fictional, and a video game series with that. This acts on many things to explain - including "death" (i.e. "Did Mario actually ever falled in a botomless pit in the actual canon ?"), some items (the Lucky Star is most likely an in-game thing, why'd Mario need that to jump multiple times or to hold a hammer ?), other things (the enemies re-appearing).

[EpicGyllynn]

Koopalmier, read the above Post.

[Artemendo]

OK, I had no idea the owner wanted in-universe only, but... first, he's gone now. Second, almost everybody frequenting the board now accepts that it also helps to see stuff from an out-of-universe perspective. Third... in-universe-only leads to some completely contrived crud that could be explained extraordinarily elegantly with companies and their politics. If you insist on in-universe, I will have to stop posting. I lost one of my friends to a cult where they believed Mario was real. He went insane, that poor guy.

[Koopalmier]

It wasn't there when I wrote mine. u_u

Kamikaze Koopa said Mariology is doing as if the Mario series was real and mostly made sense (which I actually believe... for the "it makes sense" part). That doesn't mean we should forget it's still a fictional media that is controlled by a real REAL person and that is supposed to amuse said person, and allow it to do things he couldn't do in real life (to don't make the game frustrating), thus gameplay-based elements are added (like 1-Up stuff originally giving you another chance to beat the level, or things that allow or restrain you to do things you could do from the start if the game was real).

Or just forget what I just said because your theory works anyway.

[EpicGyllynn]

Artemendo
I'm not saying we can't have Out-Of Universe discussions, but if there is an In-Universe way to explain it, then thats the way I think we should go. Also, there is actually a Cult that thinks Mario is Real... Thats just Sad...

Koopalmier
I know, I was just pointing it out to you. Also, read my "Artemendo" thing.

[Koopalmier]

But Mario and Luigi are kind of poor (I doubt they have any job, they call themselves plumbers but everything's clean in the MK anyway, and since PM:TTYD Mario considers himself as an adventurer). And I doubt there was only one bed in Mario and Luigi's house.

EDIT: Wait, where to find that Mario cult ?

[SMBBQ]

So, can we all agree? I really don't want to see a flame war on a board as awesome as this.

Artemendo: You're reasoning behind SMRPG being made to avoid Luigi is wrong. Early screenshots of the game showed Luigi and Mario both at a banquet held by Valentina. Sorry to bring this up now, just some trivia for ya.

[Artemendo]

Why it is wrong? In the finished game, we obviously don't see Luigi until his final 10-pixel-high cameo in the credits, and the game goes out of its way to not include him. The star on Star Hill is poking fun at people who expected to see Luigi.

[SMBBQ]

I meant that he originally had at least some sort of role. Sorry if I misinterpreted you, I get defensive around Luigi.

[EpicGyllynn]

As do I, SMBMaster, as do I...

[Artemendo]

I get defensive around Waluigi.
Just today, another link to Waluigious saying "Great blog, DESPITE THE NAME!" Argh! Makes me mad!

[Vent]

I once met a chap who refused to read the blog on the grounds that Waluigi's name was in the title. ¦\

[EpicGyllynn]

On Topic: So Power Stars alone can only Use so much Energy, but get a cluster of them, and you have a LOT of Power. Right?

[SMBBQ]

Yup, I think that's it.