List of the canon errors made by mistrantlations

[Artemendo]

Aug 12, 2010 0:27:22 GMT -5 shadowgoomba said:

I think you're reading too much into it. Yoster Island could very well just be an alternate name, just as New York City is sometimes called the Big Apple and L.A. is sometimes called the City of Angels.

Oh yes, this sounds very simple and makes sense! I agree with this one.

[Koopalmier]

But Yoster Island is really smaller than Yoshi Island. Plus, as I said, it has a different design. Oh, and you can't see Dinosaur Land from Yoshi Island. The only link is that they are populated by Yoshis.

[shadowgoomba]

Being smaller is easy to explain; the games only show part of all of the world. They're really the same size, but Mario goes through both versions faster for game purposes.
Being a different design...eh, not really. The mountains are moved over, but they're really similar otherwise. Especially PiT's version and YI's version.
Not seeing Dinosaur Land is another in-game thing. You'd be able to see Toad Town and whatnot just basing it off of PiT's map.
The other link is the very similar names, even in both versions, the mountains, the same music, lots of things.

[Koopalmier]

What mountains ? Yoster Island only has one mountain, and it's rectangle-shaped while Yoshi Island's mountainS are round-ish.

Plus the 3 mountains are also shown in Yoshi's Universal Gravitation even if they are irrelevant to the story. You don't even go there.

[EpicGyllynn]

There really is no Reason to believe they are seperate Islands. I mean, they are VERY similar, so similar in Fact, that the NA Version gae them the same name! Even if they have different names in Japan, rmember Yo'Ster Island from SMRPG, is that a completely different Island or is it one of the other two? It's Easier to assume they are the same Islands!

[Koopalmier]

Yo'ster Island is Yoster Island. The original name is really ¥è©`¥¹¥¿©`u, or Y¨­sut¨¡ T¨­ ("¨­" is a prolonged "o"and "¨¡" is "aa"). The "aa" is translated to "er" and the prolonged "o" to "o'". So Yo'ster Island is a more direct translation. Also note how you have ¥è©`¥¹¥¿©`u Y¨­sut¨¡ T¨­ and ¥è¥Ã¥·©`¥¢¥¤¥é¥ó¥É Yossh¨© Airando (Yoshi Island). Although I guess Yoster Island uses the kanji version of "island" so that it takes less room. Still, it makes both names even more different.

There is a reason to believe they are separate islands: they have different names, look different and one is smaller than the other. There really is no reason to believe they are the same island, or that one is the alternative version of the other (why'd they make two very different versions of the same place anyway ? Even Peach's Castle never got such a major change).

But it doesn't matter anyway, you people are right actually. I'm always wrong, and when I have proofs they become false.

EDIT: **** it, the forum doesn't support Japanese characters ! Well, I'm not editing it.

[shadowgoomba]

It's not worth responding to that if you're going to play the passive-aggressive "I'm always wrong. You guys are right." card.

[Koopalmier]

... What ? Hey, I'm not aggresive. It is simply true. Maybe because I believe it, but it's still true. The most I'm sure of something, the most there are chances that I'm wrong. And when I think I'm wrong, it appears I was right so in the end I'm still wrong. Just some bad luck, I guess. I'm talking seriously.

(... and why'd I be aggresive anyway ? Nobody insulted me. XD)

[Artemendo]

The problem is that not everybody knows Japanese, and the original versions have cultural stuff we simply disagree with. This brings the tendency to regard the translations as more correct, and really, no one is wrong. The translations are made by very good people who know their Mario probably more than all of us together.

In conclusion, of course you're right... in Japan!

[Koopalmier]

Two places being different doesn't have anything to do with cultural stuff. I think. :/

[SMBBQ]

Don't worry Koopalmier, I agree on the seperate islands debate. They're simply to different to be the same.

[Meta Black Yoshi]

Well in any case, it seems like none of that prevents today's green yoshi from being the original green yoshi's son......But I wonder, is there any reason to believe that today's green yoshi is that yoshi's son?

[Koopalmier]

"Yoster" Yoshi's birth is seen in both YIDS's ending and Yoshi's Story's introduction. Due to the fact "Yoster" Yoshi's egg is logically green, and the only green Yoshi we see through YIDS is "Yoshi" Yoshi, it seems logical that "Yoster" Yoshi is "Yoshi" Yoshi's son. ... Wait, was that understandable at least ?

[EpicGyllynn]

Though I'm still leaning supportive of the one Island Theory, I agree, New Yoshi is Old Yoshi's Son!

[Koopalmier]

I never said I agreed with that theory.

[Le Mario Bro]

*pops head into thread (heh... rhyming words...), sees heated debate going on*

...

*sits down and starts eating popcorn*

Seriously though, this topic is rather fascinating. In my immediate recollections, I don't think we've had such an in-depth discussion like this in a while on this forum, if ever.

Sorry that I can't help contribute to the discussion, but I just wanted to say that.

[kingkoopa]

I don't know about today's Yoshi being YI Yoshi's son, he really could be any Yoshi's son

[PDoogan]

I think today's Yoshi is the one show being born at the end of YIDS. The game never says who's egg that was though. I could have been any one of the 8 yoshis, or even another on that wasn't in the game.

[Koopalmier]

Due to "Yoster" Yoshi being an hero like Mario and Luigi (and thus possibly a Star Child), and him having many adventures (Yoshi's Story, Super Mario World, Super Mario Galaxy 2...), I think "Yoster" Yoshi is the one born at the end of Yoshi's Island DS AND at the start of Yoshi's Story.

Yoshi's father / mother isn't important anyway. Plus "Yoshi" Yoshi being "Yoster" Yoshi's father is kind of cliché...

[Le Mario Bro]

Not to mention a slim-to-none chance.