Bloopers

[shadowgoomba]

There's a lot of weird things about these guys. Here's what I can think of:
1. How do they fly?
2. What's the point of the ones in SMS to have mouths to shoot ink while the others shoot ink where their tentacles are?
3. How do they survive out of water for so long?
4. How are the babies in SMB3 invincible but their parents aren't?
5. How do they dig holes in SMRPG?
6. How does one in Paper Mario suddenly become electric? Why does this turn off when damaged?
7. How does the item in MKDS attack everyone at once?
8. Aside from R.O.B. with his screen and Dry Bones being dead, squirting ink in someone's eyes seems like it would cause permanant damage. How does this work?

[Meta Black Yoshi]

1. Only some fly, and they must be a lighter than air variety
2. If their mouths were on their bottom and covered by tenticles like normal squid then they wouldn't be able to shoot ink while on land
3. Theve adapted to short time life on land. Probably store water somewhere, like a separate ink pouch except for water
4. They are so small, that Mario can't hit them
5. They are a variety adapted for diging holes. Probably have hooks on their tentecles like some other squid
6. Like any other electricity using aquatic animal it probably uses special organs made up of electrocytes. It takes concintration to use the organs and keep the electricity flowing so if it gets damaged it will lose it's focus and electricity stops
7. I guess the item is actualy more than one and they split up, each going after one player in front of you, when you use it
8. It's probably just a nontoxic, black ink that you just rub out of your eyes and dosn't cause serious permanent damage. But I'm pretty sure there are more toxic forms of the ink. Also, the racers could just close their eyes when they see the're about to get squirted

[shadowgoomba]

They couldn't close their eyes, because they can still see a lot of the course. I don't see how a Blooper could make splotches so small that it would cover small portions of the eye. Also, it doesn't have to be toxic. If much of anything gets in our eyes it causes a lot of irritation.
The digging doesn't explain how they can pop in and out so fast.
Finally, if the Bloopers were lighter than air, what's stopping them from floating off into the atmosphere? Nice theories for the most part though.

[Meta Black Yoshi]

Heh. Well I got an answer to all of those questions as well.
The ink in the MK game seems to be more covering the screen rather than the eys of the racer, remember that it's third persone.
The diggin bloopers dig up to the surface until the ground above is verry thin, then with a burst of energy thrust themselves up, breaking the thin layer of earth and poping up on the surface..
For the floating bloopers, well I guess their really not lighter than air, well at least some air. Sinse air gets thinner the higher you go at the point where the air becomes lighter than the blooper is where the blooper will tend to stay, which explains why most are found at high altitude. The others found in lower places are probably heavier. So while their floating around in the air if they want to go higher the just shoot out a jet of air from their mouth.

[shadowgoomba]

The Bloopers in the first two Paper Marios (excluding the second Bowser sequence in TTYD) were all underground and they flew.
Screens and third person don't exist in the Marioverse.

[Meta Black Yoshi]

Those underground onse are almost lighter than the air underground. If third person dosn't exist, then why are there never any first person veiws? Ther's always a lakitu or something following Mario aroung videotaping the whole thing and that's the players perspective from wich he or she controlls Mario..........Mabe it'd just be easier to call it an in-game thing......

[shadowgoomba]

The Blooper's ink can be seen directly on the racer from a different racer's point of view. And if Lakitu was filming it, it wouldn't obstruct the racer's view. Also, how are Baby Bloopers from SMB3 even able to hurt Mario/Luigi? Micro-Goombas are roughly the same size and all the can do is hinder him, unless they have a block with them. Which begs the question how they can carry the block in the first place and leap high into the air with it...
Also, the speed at which you fall to Earth (or in this case, Mushroom Earth) has nothing to do with weight or mass. It has to do with wind resisitance. Since the Bloopers at high and low altitudes are roughly the same shape, I still don't understand how they fly.

[Meta Black Yoshi]

I know that the whole blooper ink thing is strange, that's why I said in-game thing. You may be able to see ink on the player and not able to see lakitu but you can also not see through the racer's eyes and instead you see the racer from behind. Also just because they apear completely covered in ink from behind dosn't necesarily meen it got in their eyes too. Bloopers have sharp beaks and sometimes hooks to hurt Mario with, Goombas don't have anything. I guess they have two sharp teeth, not sure about smaller versions. The blocks aren't as heavy as they apear and those goombas probably have strong feet.

[shadowgoomba]

But that strong of feet? I mean it's like four times their size! And how are the blocks able to hurt Mario if they are light enough for a Micro-Goomba to lift them? Do you think the entire item is in-game or something else?
When was a beak on a Blooper shown? The closest thing I can think of is the snout thing from SMS, which doesn't look that painful...
Also, there were first person views in Yoshi's Safari.
Are you suggesting all of the karts are remote-controlled by the Lakitus? That might make sense...although if you count the item as canon, it still wouldn't explain where the ink squirts (Lakitus generally dangle video cameras and shouldn't have an effect either, since they're not looking into them).

[Rex]

Perhaps the ink covered up the windsheild (assuming there was one).

As for the micro goomba thing, being hit by a bunch of bricks would hurt anyone, even mario. But they are lighter than most brick blocks as they shatered when he jumped on them. And remember, goombas are stronger than they look as they can right themself when they get squashed in YI. Plus goombas have small telekinetic powers (see the goombas and gripping thread).

And as for flying bloopers, perhaps bloopers have an internal stabbilizer that stops them from floating away when they take in helium from the air, they can stay out of water because they absorb water molocules from the air.

[Meta Black Yoshi]

Also you can't see their beaks because they are consealed like real squid and octopi.

[shadowgoomba]

Okay, but how do the windshields work out? If Nintendo edited them out for whatever reason, it would make sense. However, some machines seem disproportional for a windshield. I read the Goomba gripping article but I thought you decided on a very limited effect. Something four times your size isn't limited. Bricks wouldn't hurt as much if they were lighter. And don't get me started on YI Goombas. They seem stronger, so they would be possibly the sub-species native to Dinosaur Land? But they look like normal Goombas. Perhaps more highly trained? But with the threat of Mario in the future, Bowser would train his troops harder. Some kind of Kamek spell? But that would take a long time for limited benefit. Finally, I don't think the digging thing is solved. If it was that soft Mario and co. would sink in.

[Rex]

Ahem, there were very few goombas in yoshi's island, this leads me to belive that the goombas hadn't betrayed the mushroom kingdom yet and that the goombas in that game were criminal goombas seeking refuge from mushroom offishials. I also think that all goombas can right themselfs when squashed, otherwise goombas would be dieing out rapidly.

[Meta Black Yoshi]

Are you talking about the bloopers digging? In ML SSS they did sink in it.....But havn't you ever been to a beach and the sand was soft? But you didn't sink in it did you? And you could easily dig it up and make stuff with it. Bloopers probably have an even easier time than that using specialized tenticles...

[shadowgoomba]

Yeah, but the fact that they're underwater would create a quicksand-like effect. Criminal refugees makes sense, but the majority of all Goombas comitted a crime of some sort (PM: TTYD). Why didn't Goombas pop back up to attack Mario in SMB etc.? Does he have a sacred jump or something? Also, Goombas are mushrooms, so they have spores, making it hard for them to become rarer, since they reproduce so fast. If anything they would become more common, even with the Mario Bros. stomping them.

[Meta Black Yoshi]

It wouldn't cause a quicksand effect if there was a blooper under the sand and the hole or tunnel was just big enugh for the blooper to fit in. It would take something alot biger to make a quicksnad effect and the hole or tunnel would have to be empty.

[shadowgoomba]

I was talking about quicksand affecting Mario's side.

[Meta Black Yoshi]

Can you explain what you meen?

[shadowgoomba]

If a Blooper made a hole for itself, that might make sense, but it wouldn't make said holes for Mario's team.
Speaking of which, how do desert levels get quicksand without water?

[Rex]

Oaisis of corse, plus pirahna plant reside in there, that must have something to do with it.