The Pit Of 100 Trials

[Rex]

The ones at the top floors are probobly the ones that were there by accident. The ones at the bottem floors were probobly put there by the shadow queen.

[shadowgoomba]

Why would the Shadow Queen protect her pet, that already can't get out, more than herself. She doesn't seem to care about either testing someone's skills or protecting them from Bonetail with persuasion in the form of enemy attacks.

[Yoshi Master]

There's always the "food could appear for them magically theory"

[shadowgoomba]

Even if that were to happen, which seems unlikely anyway, Mario and others would make use of it, Charlieton would go out of business, and it wouldn't be as hard to go through the pit.

[Meta Black Yoshi]

That's why I still think that there is another pipe somewhere that leads to the pit. This pipe lets other creatures into the pit but like the other ones it is also a one way pipe.

[shadowgoomba]

Hmm...possibly it's one of those disappearing pipes like at the beginning of SM64. Enemies go in and don't come back, and food spits out for them too, but they can never seem to reach the pipe in time. Sort of like Tantalus in Greek mythology. (They want to escape and almost can every time, but can't) And then there's someone that controls these pipes, and makes it harder each level to test skills. That seems like the most plausible theory to me. I have no idea of their master though...probably not Bonetail or the Shadow Queen, though.

[Meta Black Yoshi]

The movers?

[shadowgoomba]

Maybe. But if the goal was to test peoples' power, why would the Movers let them essentially cheat? They could be rebels though.

[Meta Black Yoshi]

Maybe they did it for the money....

[shadowgoomba]

It would cost much more money to raise and feed about four monsters than they would ever get from teleporting people.

[Meta Black Yoshi]

I don't they feed the monsters.

[shadowgoomba]

So why did you mention them?

[Meta Black Yoshi]

Because if someone was controlling the pipes, I think that it would be them or someone they know. Also the pipe letting other things in could just be another one of those one way like pipes on the ceiling. But I guess it could be a disapering one too.

[shadowgoomba]

So who's feeding them?

[Meta Black Yoshi]

yoshi said:

Piranah plants are adapted to live with low or no sunlight, the way they do it is by getting nurishment from prey items rather than sunlight. I guess the creatures could be feeding off of eachother, there could also be some kind of underground fungus. The soil could be nutreint rich from dead organisms and slowly seeping all the way the bottom. The piranah plants could be part of a larger plant.

yoshi said:

shadowgoomba said:

How would the underground fungus get its nourishment then? And why would a large Pirahna Plant dig down there? There is so little light that if a Pirahna Plant could survive without it, it wouldn't biologically be a plant. Also, the nutrients remaining would be so scarce that it wouldn't do much and if they fed off each other in a very small room, there would kill each other off within an hour.

Fungus get nurishment from the nutrient rich soil I was talking about, full of dead material that has seeped down alittle more every time it rained. The piranah plants subsitute sunlight with meat. A piranah plant might dig down there for more food. Theres more than one room so maybe they change rooms sometimes while were not looking. Since that place is like near were that catastrophy thing happened and at deapth maybe that has someting to do with the nutreind rich soil.

yoshi said:

shadowgoomba said:

Like I said, the lower levels are VERY deep and would not get any nutrients. All of the nutrients would stop flowing long before they got to that point. And if they can swap levels at will, why can't Mario? And it would do them little good anyway as there are creatures on the other levels as well. I understand where a Pirahna Plant gets its nutrients, but if it doesn't do at least some photosynthesis then it's not a plant. With so little food, why would a Pirahna Plant dig down there, especially considering how deep it is? And what about the Movers and Charlieton? They're all by themselves. And even if they ate each other, it wouldn't be enough to survive off of.

Mario can move through the levels....but only down. That's also how nutrents and or other creatures get to lower levels but instead of coming back up they get eaten by the stronger monsters. That's why the strongest of the monsters are near the bottom. I also think that there might be another pipe like the one Mario uses to enter that is in a different location. Plants don't have to photosynthisize to be plants. And if the plants down there were part of a larger system, they could be photosynthesizing at another area, wich, if it had little food there, could dig down in to the pit for food. Charlieton just went down there to sell stuff to despirate travelers. He probably packed enue stuff to make sure that he himself would be ok. And he obviously dosn't stay there all the time. I'm not really sure about the movers, except I think that they seem to know more about the pipes and can probably move around the areas easier.

[shadowgoomba]

It seems extremely hard to believe that something that deep could have a constant food source without outside interference. On Earth, something one-quarter of that depth would lose all of its resources. Creatures, plants, mold, or anything else don't just show up in random places. They have to be able to adapt to their environment, and to do that at minimum they need a food source, protection from predators, and water. In addition, being super-powerful, they would need even more. By itself, the Pit cannot supply any of these things.

[Meta Black Yoshi]

yoshi said:

That's why I still think that there is another pipe somewhere that leads to the pit. This pipe lets other creatures into the pit but like the other ones it is also a one way pipe.

Plus, besides that, it's also possible that whatever happened a thousand years ago caused the soil to have extra nutrients.

[shadowgoomba]

1000 years=long time. Sure, the nutrients could work for like, a week or two, but not one thousand years. And again, If all of the monsters have an endless access to food then why doesn't Mario use it. He could fully heal and never have to worry about any future enemies. Being a one-way pipe doesn't explain how they could adapt.

[Meta Black Yoshi]

Well I guess you could be right about the 1000 year thing....But about Mario using the food to fight against the enemies.....the enemies are the food.......lol.........They adapt by becoming gloombas and dark troopas........forgive me for bringing this next point up but..........Magic nutrients?

[shadowgoomba]

And forgive me if I came off as rude or impatient. That's not my intent. However, magic, for once, can not answer this, because the resources would still be used up. I guess you're right. The enemies could be used as nourishment after they were defeated. So, that leaves two explanations: either a) they got teleported away by that person controlling them I mentioned earlier, or b) the enemies are just magical apparitions.