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Post by soap on Apr 3, 2006 17:26:22 GMT -5
I really need to play RPG. Could this chancelor guys castle be the government for only that RPG island area? Who would rule a kingdom from across seas? What's the point of that? It's not unheard of for islands to rule over mainland territory. THink of the MK from SMRPG as England and the MK from 64 and so as the New World. It's very likely the Mushroom Kingdom originated on that island but than expanded it's borders unto the mainland, probably thanks to Mario freeing that land from Bowser's Control (merely fanficcing here but oh well). |
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Post by Yoshi Master on Apr 3, 2006 18:09:36 GMT -5
THink of the MK from SMRPG as England and the MK from 64 and so as the New World. And we all know how that ended, REVOLUTION! It would make more sense that the mainland took over the RPG island, otherwise all the games that take place in TMK are in the RPG area. And It looks like there's not much room there for those games. |
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Post by Toomai on Apr 3, 2006 19:03:01 GMT -5
I agree with YM. It would make more sense for an island to be ruled by the mainland in the Marioverse.
And welcome, Soap!
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Post by soap on Apr 4, 2006 1:55:07 GMT -5
THink of the MK from SMRPG as England and the MK from 64 and so as the New World. And we all know how that ended, REVOLUTION! It would make more sense that the mainland took over the RPG island, otherwise all the games that take place in TMK are in the RPG area. And It looks like there's not much room there for those games. And why is that? Is there a prerequisite in the Marioverse that you must be on the mainland in order to rule over other territoiries. It is not unfeasible that the Toads originated on the Mushroom Kingdom island, then stretched their borders to a neigboring continent. And why would the rest of the MK-based games have to take place in the SMRPG island. They take place on the mainland territory cause that's where Peach lives and she's the one always getting kidnapped. Mind you most of the mario worlds ARE islands. Also, going back to the original question, many royals throughout history had more than one castle. How many palaces does Prince Charles have again? Anyways, I like to think of Peach as the Jennifer Lopez of the Mushroom World. She can have as many castles as she d**n well pleases. |
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Post by Claws on Apr 4, 2006 7:02:41 GMT -5
I like Soap's theory here. Like he said, it parallels nicely with a great real world comparison, Great Britain. At one point, that tiny island ruled most of the known world. Why would it have to be different in the Mushroom Kingdom?
Another question: is Dinosaur Land part of the Mushroom Kingdom?
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Post by PDoogan on Apr 4, 2006 7:47:26 GMT -5
I don't think dinosaurland is part of TMK. It seems to underdevolped to be part of such a prosperous country, not to mention you don't see on toad on the entire continent. Besides, if it was part of the Mushroom Kingdom, why wouldn't Bowser be more willing to try to conquer it again?
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Post by Yoshi Master on Apr 4, 2006 14:07:58 GMT -5
Meh, could work either way, though it doesn't seem realavant anymore since MRPG never got a second game.
Dinosaur Land is probably politically associated with TMK in some way, though there's no government for it.
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Post by L.D. on Apr 4, 2006 16:08:23 GMT -5
I say it's a continent that is unhabitied by humans or toads(unless you coun't the show). Aren't all the rpg islands but vista hill yos'ter island, and barrel volcano conected to each other
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Post by PDoogan on Apr 4, 2006 16:25:18 GMT -5
I don't think it's inabited by many inteligent creatures at all (not counting koopas and yoshis) there are not shops, the castles are few and far between, and alot more large creatures that wouldn't survive well in a devoped inviroment.
As for SMRPG, I still have yet to figure out how to make that map fit in with the rest of the Mario univerce. Perhaps we shouldn't count it at all, considering Nintendo didn't really get that involved in the storyline of that game...
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Post by L.D. on Apr 4, 2006 17:54:57 GMT -5
I think it's just an island off the coast of TMK. I remember the ending when I saw the guy beats SMRPG in 2 hours thing and it showed the place on water.
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Post by Yoshi Master on Apr 5, 2006 14:16:45 GMT -5
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Post by Claws on Apr 5, 2006 18:56:42 GMT -5
The RPG islands are definitely on Mushroom Earth; the Chancellor presides from there! Mario and Luigi even lived there for a large part of their Mushroom Dimension lives. As for Dinosaur Land, I'd say that what little central government there is (the whole continent seemed like a simple collection of states each centered around a castle) maintains peaceful relations with the Mushroom Kingdom. As for what constitutes the Mushroom Kingdom, tell me what you guys think about where I am so far on this list. I think I've included everything that's part of TMK. Mushroom Geography |
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Post by L.D. on Apr 5, 2006 21:01:29 GMT -5
I think the mushroom islands are one main land with vista hill,barrel volcano,and yos'ter island as seperate islands. mario's pad,mushroom kingdom,tadpole pond,seaside town,molevile,and lands end are one land mass
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Post by Claws on Apr 6, 2006 22:38:07 GMT -5
I don't know. The bottom portions look connected while the upper islands don't. I've just always thought of them as islands. What does everyone else think?
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Post by L.D. on Apr 7, 2006 7:32:25 GMT -5
vista hill is where bowsers keep is,yos'ter island is the island south of molevill,and barrel volcano is the mounain next to vista hill.
and yes i think the lower porsion is one land
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Post by Yoshi Master on Apr 10, 2006 13:04:45 GMT -5
The M&L2 mushroom kingdom could be the zoomed out version of the PM map.
The changes need to be explained more.
And I think the RPG area is connected.
And I don't think I told you this but Peaches Castle in MK64 could be the same one as the Melee castle.
So Peach would have multiple castles and the geography wouldnt conflict.
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Post by Claws on Apr 10, 2006 21:39:36 GMT -5
I think the PiT/PM map is the part of the Mushroom Kingdom that connects to the main area of the BeanBean Kingdom. The Star Hill area (or whatever it's called) in PiT corresponds nicely with that first area of M&L.
I'm a fan of the single-castle theory, YoshiMastar. I mean, why would there be multiple "Peach's Castles"? I think it's more logical that the land around it is just altered by the Sports Committee when necessary and that the distances from the castle to other objects are exaggerated in certain games.
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Post by PDoogan on Apr 10, 2006 21:46:23 GMT -5
I always imagined the Bean-bean kingdom and Mushroom kingdom being connected at the the very north ends of the map (with the mushroom kingdom being on the right and bean-bean on the left.) The whole star hill thing help to strengthen that theory.
I also like the one castle idea, for the most part, they all look exactly the same except for SMRPG and SMB3.
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Post by Yoshi Master on Apr 10, 2006 23:23:16 GMT -5
She's rich why can't she have more than one pad?
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Post by L.D. on Apr 11, 2006 6:53:14 GMT -5
mario has 2 pads,one in RPG and one in TMK. comparison wise to peach,mario's poor.
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