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Post by EpicGyllynn on Jun 15, 2011 18:25:05 GMT -5
...In Super Paper Mario doesn't make anysense, because we know that the Mario Universe is 3D, yet the power is given to Mario in the story. How do we explain this?
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Post by kingkoopa on Jun 15, 2011 18:31:03 GMT -5
He was really seeing the world in 4-D when he flipped?
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Post by PDoogan on Jun 15, 2011 19:15:19 GMT -5
SPM seemed to take place in a different dimension then the Mushroom Kingdom, so maybe this world was normally view in 2D. That's why everyone looked flat when you flipped to 3D.
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Post by Le Mario Bro on Jun 15, 2011 20:42:06 GMT -5
SPM seemed to take place in a different dimension then the Mushroom Kingdom, so maybe this world was normally view in 2D. That's why everyone looked flat when you flipped to 3D. Now that's been my theory for the longest time. I've been thinking about writing a sort of Fan-fiction for SPM (partially scrapped), and I've been trying to wrap my brain around the logic behind the 2D and 3D platforming in that game. I imagine that Mario, Luigi, Peach, Bowser, and his minions might have been a bit discombobulated having to deal with moving around in a 2D world, while they were used to 3D. |
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Post by EpicGyllynn on Jun 15, 2011 23:28:00 GMT -5
kingkoopaDimmension 1 = You can see forward and backwards but not up/down or to the sides. Dimmension 2 = You would can see forward and backwards, and to the sides, but not up/down. Dimmension 3 = You can see forward and backwards, to the sides, and up/down. Dimmension 4 = Time itself. ...Welp, that theory is out, but thanks for teh input. PDooganWell, all of the Worlds in Super Paper Mario, excluding the Aftergame, are sub-universes of the Mushroom Universe, so I guess it's possible that they we'rn't created 3D.
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Post by Koopalmier on Jun 16, 2011 6:46:37 GMT -5
In SPM, the Mushroom Kingdom is in 2D too.
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Post by cheat-master30 on Jun 16, 2011 9:43:43 GMT -5
kingkoopaDimmension 1 = You can see forward and backwards but not up/down or to the sides. Dimmension 2 = You would can see forward and backwards, and to the sides, but not up/down. Dimmension 3 = You can see forward and backwards, to the sides, and up/down. Dimmension 4 = Time itself. ...Welp, that theory is out, but thanks for teh input. PDooganWell, all of the Worlds in Super Paper Mario, excluding the Aftergame, are sub-universes of the Mushroom Universe, so I guess it's possible that they we'rn't created 3D. Isn't it more 'one dimensional is seeing only forwards and backwards', 'two dimensional also allows you to see up and down' and 'three dimensional allows you to see in all directions'? Because you can go up in SMB 3 and SMW, but you can't go sideways. |
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Post by PDoogan on Jun 16, 2011 10:02:10 GMT -5
Isn't it more 'one dimensional is seeing only forwards and backwards', 'two dimensional also allows you to see up and down' and 'three dimensional allows you to see in all directions'? Because you can go up in SMB 3 and SMW, but you can't go sideways. Here's a better explanation, think about it in terms of math: 1D- length 2D- length and height 3D- length, height and width The only reason older Mario games are in 2D is a software limitation. It's still implied that the world is 3D, we just can't see that in the game. Because SPM makes a point of telling us that that world is in fact in 2D it becomes a fact. Also, even though some of the SPM world shared a lot in common with the mushroom world, there were still a lot of differences. All those weird equations in the sky, and those unique creatures, etc. |
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Post by EpicGyllynn on Jun 16, 2011 10:14:56 GMT -5
In SPM, the Mushroom Kingdom is in 2D too. But you never see Mario "flip" in the Mushroom Kingdom, so it coulv'e very well been 3D but we didn't see it for the ake of consistency throughout the game. |
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Post by Koopalmier on Jun 16, 2011 15:13:38 GMT -5
But then what would happen if Mario used his flip ability in the Mushroom Kingdom ?
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Post by Le Mario Bro on Jun 16, 2011 15:16:47 GMT -5
But then what would happen if Mario used his flip ability in the Mushroom Kingdom ? *shrug* Flip into 2D. |
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Post by PDoogan on Jun 16, 2011 15:37:02 GMT -5
But then what would happen if Mario used his flip ability in the Mushroom Kingdom ? The space/time continuum would break and there would be no more Mario games.....or......something. |
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Post by EpicGyllynn on Jun 16, 2011 16:17:38 GMT -5
KoopalmierEither nothing, or he would flip to 2D... Presumably nothing.
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Post by Koopalmier on Jun 18, 2011 16:27:11 GMT -5
Or maybe he'd slip between 3th and 4th dimension.
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Post by EpicGyllynn on Jun 18, 2011 16:52:42 GMT -5
But you can't slip into time... Can you?
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Post by Le Mario Bro on Jun 18, 2011 21:19:42 GMT -5
Well, according to Slaughterhouse 5, you can see it, forwards and back.
I mean, so long as you're a green plunger with a hand on the end of the shaft and an eye where the palm should be.
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Post by Vent on Jun 18, 2011 22:00:31 GMT -5
But then what would happen if Mario used his flip ability in the Mushroom Kingdom ? Why would it have it in the Mushroom Kingdom? For all we know you can only get it in the Flipsiders' dimension. |
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Post by Le Mario Bro on Jun 19, 2011 4:26:14 GMT -5
But then what would happen if Mario used his flip ability in the Mushroom Kingdom ? Why would it have it in the Mushroom Kingdom? For all we know you can only get it in the Flipsiders' dimension. He means Mario probably wouldn't lost the ability, even if he left Flipside, so he was wondering what would happen if he used it outside of there. |
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Post by Vent on Jun 19, 2011 11:20:43 GMT -5
I like the idea that it does the opposite effect.
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Post by EpicGyllynn on Jun 19, 2011 15:01:29 GMT -5
VentI like that idea. It's simple, and it works, although one has to question, how would it benefit Mario to switch into 2D? It would just limit him.
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