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Post by L.D. on Mar 9, 2006 7:17:52 GMT -5
dinoland=continent
It would still show up in the opening even if you can't get to it in the game. and in the opening baby mario fell twords the open sea,it even said that in the text. Ya'know,if you watch the openings in games you can learn this stuff
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Post by PDoogan on Mar 9, 2006 8:43:33 GMT -5
It's all dependant on camera angles. If the camera in the opening scene wasn't that far up, Dinosaur Land wouldn't be visible. Or mabey Mario fell on the side of Yoshi's island opposite to the side Dinosaur Land is on. Isn't that where Yoshi's house is anyway?
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Post by L.D. on Mar 9, 2006 16:27:15 GMT -5
the text in the game said he fell twords the open sea. if the game text says it,it's true
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Post by PDoogan on Mar 9, 2006 17:12:16 GMT -5
...Ok, but thats not really what I was disagreeing with Look here Yoshi's house is on the opposite side of the island the Dino land is on. Assuming Yoshi was somewhere near his house when he found baby Mario, Dinosaur land would not be visible, but Mario would still be falling towrds the sea.
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Post by L.D. on Mar 9, 2006 17:39:51 GMT -5
doesn't matter,If he fell twords he open sea,that means there wasn't any land for miles. If it was SMW's island it wouldn't have said it was open sea,and the camera is panned straight down,not at an angle.
that and yoshi's house doesn't show up in YI,the trees at the begging of the traning level and the end of all the stages are just trees,like you said,just because the type of something is found somewhere else doesn't mean anything.
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Post by PDoogan on Mar 9, 2006 18:39:37 GMT -5
Weel if that's the case, why did Mario land on any island at all? Also, considering the grren Yoshi from SMW is the same on that saved Mario, that would be his house.
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Post by L.D. on Mar 9, 2006 21:21:50 GMT -5
the stork was conveniently flying over the island,and how do you know it's the same yoshi
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Post by PDoogan on Mar 10, 2006 9:04:55 GMT -5
There's obviously somthing special about that green Yoshi, or Nintendo wouldn't had made him fight the final battle insted of blue yoshi.
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Post by L.D. on Mar 10, 2006 11:25:47 GMT -5
green yoshi is the one who found mario so he made it his job to get rid of bowser
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Post by Yoshi Master on Mar 10, 2006 12:51:31 GMT -5
If you shoot towards a dear that doesn't mean you'll hit it.
And if you kick towards a goal it doesn't mean it'll go in.
Falling towards the sea doesn't mean he'll land in it, plus the camera was still panning as he fell, and if he fell over the cloud line there would be plenty of time to show the landing point in Yoshi's Island.
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Post by L.D. on Mar 10, 2006 14:11:11 GMT -5
the narrator said He fell twords the open sea. open sea means that no land for miles. another thing I noticed you guys have used out-of-marioverse things such as camera angles in your posts in this topic. moreover I've explained in a lot ways that the islands are different,the size,the enviorment,the open sea. you guys must not want to accept the fact that I just might be right.also this forum is pretty small and it's not hard to search the whole forum and from what I found you guys just pulled it out of thin air and went with it. If you have acctual proof of the islands post it here instead of just saying,we posted it all over the place. seriously,are you guys even trying to convince me. note: this was not a flame,this is a You guys have gotten boring on this topic"
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Post by Yoshi Master on Mar 10, 2006 15:32:43 GMT -5
the narrator said He fell twords the open sea. open sea means that no land for miles. another thing I noticed you guys have used out-of-marioverse things such as camera angles in your posts in this topic. moreover I've explained in a lot ways that the islands are different,the size,the enviorment,the open sea. you guys must not want to accept the fact that I just might be right. "open sea means that no land for miles" then he wouldnt have landed! There's open sea west and south of the island in SMW. Assuming the stork flew at a north east direction. I already said my opinions on the environment differnce, I don't know about everyone else. I also already said there was untouched space on Yoshi's Island in SMW. That would explain the size. "you guys must not want to accept the fact that I just might be right", we can say the same thing to you.
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Post by L.D. on Mar 10, 2006 16:16:40 GMT -5
you never exlpained how you came up with the idea in the first place. If your onlt explaination of the envoirment is something you made(an artifical winter never happened) then it's automaticly null and void. the space doesn't change the size. YI is still huge compared to SMW,just because It wasn't in the game was becuase doesn't mean the island is huge. open sea means no main land for miles,YI is a lonely island in the ocean. considering the camera panned straight down means you would still see dino land no matter the hight. as for that last part, the odds are against you. I acctualy pulled my proof from the games,where as you just made it up,I never saw this so called proof so I have better odds.
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Post by PDoogan on Mar 10, 2006 19:28:10 GMT -5
No. Your not right, and neither are we. Remember, this is a forum about theories, and trying to figure out what we believe fits best. But we can never be sure.
The line about falling towards the open sea always puzzled me. Even before this conversation started. Personally, I believe it's more of a bad choice of words on Nintendo's part more than anything.
One last thing for you to think about: In the opening scene the stork is shown flying with the sun to the left of him. This means he was going South. Since Yoshi's Island is South of Dinosaur Land in SMW, It makes sense that that was the island the stork was flying over...
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Post by L.D. on Mar 10, 2006 19:41:54 GMT -5
could have been other islands,Raphael the ravens castle showed several islands in the background.
and I guess your right,but till you post no one put anything useful in the defence of YI=SMW and it got boring.
edit: never mind
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Post by Claws on Mar 12, 2006 18:48:00 GMT -5
If PiT Yoshi's Island can be reconciled with PM Lavalava Island, then SMW2 Yoshi's Island can definitely be reconciled with SMW Yoshi's Island.
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Post by L.D. on Mar 12, 2006 20:28:22 GMT -5
Thats just because they are similar in alot of ways. you guys have to use camera angles and "place of explorage" to think that YI and SMW are the same. IMO,if you have to change the game to find it,it musn't be true,and you guys are doing that by mentioning camera angles and other things that would totally change SMW. I think nintendo ment for YI to be it's own island, you guys just don't think that maybe YI and SMW can be different ,it's not gonna be the end of the world if their not. another thing king goomba and goomboss look the same,yet are two things entirely.
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Post by PDoogan on Mar 13, 2006 19:50:19 GMT -5
True, Yoshi's Island is it's on island (not atttached to anything else) in both games, it's just that the view in SMW is pulled out much more. Just how you can have a map of Haiwaii and but it's still classified as being part of a larger land mass (the U.S)
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Post by L.D. on Mar 13, 2006 20:03:25 GMT -5
Hawaii's connection to the US is political,not enviormental
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Post by PDoogan on Mar 14, 2006 16:58:37 GMT -5
So?...Ah forget it. I'm tired of talking about this topic. It's getting boring. Let's go argue about somthing else.
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