SMG and SMG2 Galaxies and stuff

[Your Buddy Bill]

Where do they come from? This is a summary of my theories so far.
All planets names are rather conjectural, and gotten from Mariowiki. You can view their pictures there as well.

SMG:
Good Egg Galaxy:
Planets:
1: Starting Planet: Likely from a small cluster of planetoids that were at some point inhabited. Well call it the 'Home Cluster'.
2: Boulder Planet: unknown
3. Flatland Planet: unknown
4. Bitten Apple Planet: A section of Giant Land used for growing food. Lets call it Giant Harvest.
5. Flip-Switch Planet: from a likely MASSIVE Flip-Switch Galaxy that was broken up by the arrival of Bowser. Lets call it the 'Flipswitch Cluster'.
6. Block Climb: unknown
7. Geo Planet: Possibly from a prehistoric-era cluster that broke off of the Mushroom World long ago. We'll call it 'Dino Cluster'.
8. Pear Planet: unknown
9. Rock Planet: unknown
10. Egg Planet: unknown
11. Tower Planet: a Hungry Luma
12. Pill Planet: an area with lots of gravity-changing things, possibly bordering the Home Cluster. We'll call it 'Gravity Cluster'.
13. Star 'Planet': artificial structure dedicated to the power of the Grand Stars.
14. and 15. Twin Tropic Planets: unknown
16. Water Planets: probably same area as Tropic Planets
17. Saucer Planet: unknown
18. Asteroid Planet: unknown
19. Magma Planet: unknown

Honeyhive: most of this was likely already there, as the bees state their neighbors are causing trouble again.

Loop-de-loop: artificially created using Magnetic Fields to keep the water in place. Must have a large gravity field below or Mario wouldn't have any trouble if he fell off a cliff.

Flipswitch Galaxy: remnants of the Flipswitch Cluster

Robot Reactor: completely artificial, however, a bending light issue causes a nearby organic planetoid to appear when looking at the first planetoid from a long distance away.

Space Junk Galaxy: completely as name implies, except for the Crystal Planet, likely from a cluster of similar planets, and the Sticky Planet, tarantox's lair. The scuttle bugs colonized nearby Stone planet and some of the space junk to guard Tarantox.

Battlerock Galaxy:
1. Saucer, Molecule, Missle, and Garbage planets: from Space Junk
2. Battlerock, Barrier, Metal Bowl, and Topman planets: space junk and large rocks converted into a fortress by the Topmen or a group of more humanoid robots. The laser drones (with the flat heads and beanie propellers) may be their creations.

Rolling Green: unknown, likely a grassland (duh)

Hurry-scurry: likely the center of a larger cluster of such platforms.

Bowser's Star Reactor: made of parts of various castles

Beach Bowl: mostly from a cluster of similar planets/planetoids (lets call it Beach Cluster), with one anomaly from a castle area, though the Glacier Planet came from a slightly cooler area.

Ghostly:
1. Starting planet and Mansion Planet: A ghost house and a walkway leading to it uplifted from Mushroom World. Several other sections were uplifted and became planetoids, leading up to the Bone Pen.
2. Cracked Wall and Bouldergeist planets: from a haunted arena in Mushroom World.
3. Bone Pen: unknown
4. Hollowed Out: unknown, mostly because black holes have nearly eaten them all away. Well call this the Hollowed Cluster. A planet from an area well call Trampoline Cluster is at the center of one of these.
5. Matter Splatter Mansion: from Matter Splatter Galaxy
6. Star bit shooter and Pull star planets: from Space Junk Galaxy
7. Spooky Speedster's race area: unknown, likely same place as Bone Pen

Bubble Breeze Galaxy: likely from a Poison Swamp

Bouy Base: from Beach Cluster, though fortified against invaders when the amphibious inhabitants left. The Poke Ball Planet is likely from Space Junk, though it seems that the technology was copied into the Laser Topmen, so it may have passed through the Battlerock at some point in time.

Bowser Jr.s Airship Armada: just airships, besides the Trampoline Planet, which may be from the Trampoline Cluster.

Gusty Garden: natural, except for the Apple Planets which come from the Giant Harvest and the Disk, ? and ! planets from the Space Junk Galaxy.

Freezeflame:
native area, besides the Freezy Peak Planet, which came from Cool Cool Mountain.

Dusty Dune: mostly from the area around Shifting Sand Land

Honeyclimb: from Honeyhive

Bowsers Dark Matter Plant: again, mostly from castle areas.

Gold Leaf: a twin area to Honeyhive, separated by unknown means and sent to its present location. The square planet, however, came from the Gusty Garden, and the Cataquack Planet may have, as well.

Sea Slide: mostly from the Beach Cluster, with a planetoid from the Hurry Scurry Galaxy.

Toy Time: from Space Junk with desserts from a very large refrigirator near the Giant Harvest.

Bonefin: from the Hollow Cluster, large enough that large amounts of rain and sediments created the planet in the center.

Bowser Jr.s Lava Reactor: from Melty Molten or Freezeflame. Freezeflame is more likely, as Prince Pikante, who is likely related to King Kaliente, is fought in an icy area.

Deep Dark:
1. Beach: from a haunted lake area?
2. Wooden: unknown
3. Gateway planet: from Home Cluster
4. Boo Box planet: space junk or toy time?
5. Cheep cheep planet: from Haunted Lake or Beach Cluster
6. Watermelon Planet: from Giant Harvest

Dreadnought: mostly space junk, though the Dreadnought itself would have been a travel ship or warship. Well say it came from an area called the Fleetyards.

Melty Molten: native area with a Geo planet from a Prehistoric Era, the fire and heat have mutated the dino piranha inside the egg.

Matter Splatter: native, see the Matter Splatter topic for a history.

Assuming hungry lumas simply become gravity fields that pull planets in to create galaxies, I'll also include hungry luma galaxies.

Sweet Sweet: same as dessert planets from Toy Time.

Sling Pod: space junk

Drip Drop: beach cluster

Bigmouth: Haunted Lake

Sand Spiral: from Dusty Dunes.

Boo's Boneyard: unknown, may be native, with the Bone Pen and Race Areas of the Ghostly Galaxy coming from here.

Snow Cap: unknown

Trial Galaxies: Rolling Gizmo: as Rolling Green
Loopdeswoop: as Loopdeloop
Bubble Blast: from Space Junk

ONWARD TO SMG2!!!


Sky Station: Mostly from Yoshi's Island, with another planet from the Prehistoric Cluster and two large ships from the Fleetyards or Space Junk.

Yoshi Star: mostly from Yoshis Island, though the Fossil planet is from the Dino Cluster.

Spin-Dig: mostly from a soft ground area, though the Purple Cylinder Planet may be from Space Junk.

Fluffy Bluff: NSMB world 7?

Flip-swap: unknown, likely an area near Hurry-Scurry and Flipswitch Cluster, as the technology seems similar.

Rightside Down: Home Cluster or Gravity Cluster?

Bowser Jr Fiery Flotilla: artificial. again.


More will be posted as soon as I have time.

[Koopalmier]

What, do you mean you think that the "galaxies" weren't there before ?

I personally think the "galaxies" are mere bunch of asteroids and really small moons orbiting the Mushroom Earth (note: they first appeared in SMW2, technically). When the universe was entirely destroyed and recreated in SMG, every "light" spatial object was mixed through space. Thus most "planets" (see: asteroids) in SMG are now at completely different places, and the single moon orbiting the Mushroom Earth was replaced by six moons.

[EpicGyllynn]

Oh yes, time for some SERIOUS theorizing... Just for teh Lulz! Bill, this is one of the things that Koopalmier and I had some LONG debates about, and I'm ready for Round 2. Well, I'll start by stating my Theory; When Bowser attacked the Comet Observatory prior to Super Mario Galaxy, he used the Power Stars "rip" pieces of the Mushroom World(And various other Planets) to use in the construction of his own Galaxy(At the Center of the Universe). After Mario retrieves the Grand Star powering Bowser's Sun, it turns into a Black Hole and begins to rip the Universe apart. Long story, short: The Lumas reverse Time to the morning of the Star Festival in their attempt to stop the Black Hole. Everyone looses their memories of the events of Super Mario Galaxy except for Mario, Luigi & Rosalina. But everyone still has a subliminal memory(I guess you could call it that), so Bowser decides to do some last minute adjustments to his plans, resulting in the Galaxies of Super Mario Galaxy 2. At the end of the Game, all Galaxies are restored to there rightful places. To see a full list of the Galaxies from SMG2, and where I think they are from, click here:
kamikazekoopa.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=places&action=display&thread=409&page=1

[Koopalmier]

Nobody lost their memories in the original version of SMG2 though. And you're forgeting the Grand Finale Galaxy level.

[EpicGyllynn]

No one in SMG2 seems to have ANY remembrance of the first games events. And Grand Finale Galaxy is Fan-service, at best.

[SMBBQ]

I thought Grand Finale Galaxy could've happened after SMG2, but that's just my messed-up brain.

[Your Buddy Bill]

Actually, most of the 'unknown's could be considered to have bbeen there already or come from the mushroom earth. And why i figure some of that: What in the world is a HOUSE doing out here in the middle of nowhere?!?!

[SMBBQ]

It could've been recently built by Bowser's troops as a base, you know...

[EpicGyllynn]

Wait, which Galaxy are you talking about? Because I have different theories for them.

[kingkoopa]

Are you talking about Yoshi's House? That house was either built by Yoshi when he went into space or Bowser ripped part of Yoshi's Island into space when he stole the Power and Grand Stars

[EpicGyllynn]

Yeah, but all of the other houses have explanations, too.

[SMBBQ]

Oh, I thought he meant in Good Egg Galaxy. Whoops.

[EpicGyllynn]

He didn't say what Galaxy he meant, we were just speculating.

[Your Buddy Bill]

Actually, I meant all of them but the Gateway house, as we all know who built that. Anyways, I figure that SMG's galaxies still exist somewhere, though some may have been changed or were originally larger than they were seen in SMG, and Bowser took slightly different areas for SMG2.

[Vent]

I still maintain that Rosalina reset the entire universe at the end of SMG1, creating the galaxies we see in SMG2 as a result.

[Koopalmier]

It's not Rosalina who does this. She may be powerful, but not enough to RESET the WHOLE UNIVERSE.
Wouldn't it make more sense if it was due to the black hole ?

[kingkoopa]

You don't know what Rosalina is capable or not capable of. No one has seen the full extent of her power

[Koopalmier]

She couldn't defend against Bowser's attack. She may be strong, but she's not godly either.

Here's my theory:
The black hole at the end of SMG1 ate the whole universe, but it collapsed due to the Lumas (don't forget Lumas are stars, and a black hole is a star too). It exploded and reseted everything back to how it was before it was destroyed. However, the disturbance was so strong that objects lighter than a planet (such as moons, asteroids) were mixed in space, and some parts of the Mushroom Earth went flying away. Yoster Island (Yoshi's Island) was particularly hit by this, as a minor-ish part of it went in space and was split in two "galaxies" (Sky Station and Yoshi Star). That explains why Yoshi's house is in space, why there's a galaxy named Yostar Galaxy (Yoshi Star's JAP name), why 6 moons are orbiting the Mushroom Earth now, and why you see again many "planets" from SMG1.

[kingkoopa]

So the pieces of Yoshi's Island would have gone into space when the universe reset then... hm well that makes more sense then Bowser ripping it from the Earth

[EpicGyllynn]

Oct 10, 2010 18:50:24 GMT -5 SMBBQ said:

I thought Grand Finale Galaxy could've happened after SMG2, but that's just my messed-up brain.

This. SMBMaster, you ARE a genius.