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Post by SMBBQ on Oct 5, 2010 20:26:10 GMT -5
Who could've guessed, another DK-related thread.
Anyway, those of you who played the game know it's extremely similar to DKC2, similar enough to be a port of the game to GB. Main question: should we consider it canon?
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Post by Vent on Oct 5, 2010 20:48:18 GMT -5
I guess you technically could if you say the island rose back out of the ocean, but that's pretty tenuous as we clearly saw the island explode at the end of DKC2.
I'm willing to just write it off as a truncated interpretation of DKC2. IF anything, the GBA port of DKC2, being the newest and therefore most updated rendition should be considered the most canon.
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Post by SMBBQ on Oct 5, 2010 21:00:26 GMT -5
I was on the verge of considering it canon, but I've decided it works best for it to be a port.
DKL and DKL III however, that's a different story.
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Post by Clive Koopa on Nov 27, 2010 16:19:21 GMT -5
This is a Mario site, not a DKC site. Anyway I never played the DKL games, only the DKC games on the SNES and DK64.
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Post by SMBBQ on Nov 27, 2010 16:27:33 GMT -5
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Well then why even come to a thread about it if you haven't played it?
And Clive, we discuss the broader aspects of the Marioverse here, and that includes DK.
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Post by EpicGyllynn on Nov 27, 2010 17:05:21 GMT -5
...And Wario, and Yoshi and, to a lesser extent, Kirby & Starfy; We all pretty much agreed that all of these franchises occur in the same Universe.
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Post by Clive Koopa on Nov 27, 2010 17:06:24 GMT -5
I understand Wario and Yoshi but what has Kirby got to do with Mario other than being a Nintendo character.
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Post by EpicGyllynn on Nov 27, 2010 17:12:15 GMT -5
Well, I'll let our own Resident Kirby Expert, Koopalmier, explain that whenever he logs.
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Post by Koopalmier on Nov 28, 2010 4:45:30 GMT -5
Not directly Kirby, but rather its universe. Mario's planet and Pop Star share TWO species (Spinies and... those little orange "topman" things). Both universes have the same "motor" - the Star Rods, which have the same functions too (after Paper Mario, it has been said in the Kirby series that the Star Rod regulates dreams AND wishes...). And Samus made an appearance in both series too. And there are a few Star Blocks on Rosalina's observatory. And all. kamikazekoopa.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=continuity&thread=389&page=1 for more nonsense ! |
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Post by EpicGyllynn on Nov 28, 2010 14:22:16 GMT -5
Good job, Koopalmier! This is why you're our resident, Kirby Expert! I always assumed that PopStar was either a planet in the Mushroom Universe, or(more likely) an alternate "Dream" version of the Mushroom Universe, this would also explain the appearance of Samus appearance in Kirby's Dream Land 3(said mission takes place while Samus is asleep in Super Mario RPG).
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Post by Koopalmier on Nov 28, 2010 14:43:03 GMT -5
A dream world where the inhabitants also have dreams ?
... nah.
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Post by EpicGyllynn on Nov 28, 2010 16:42:09 GMT -5
When do the inhabitants have Dreams?
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Post by Koopalmier on Nov 28, 2010 17:12:07 GMT -5
Kirby's Adventure's plot started with the fact that people of Dream Land couldn't dream anymore (and this is due to the Star Rod being broken). You also have Kirby dreaming of cake in Kirby Mouse Attack if you wait long enough.
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Post by EpicGyllynn on Nov 28, 2010 17:15:23 GMT -5
...Well, even if they CAN dream, that doesn't mean that PopStar couldn't be made up of the Mushroom Worlds dreams.
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Post by Koopalmier on Nov 28, 2010 17:20:34 GMT -5
Why'd they be made up of the Mushroom Earth's dreams anyway ? As far as I know, Pop Star isn't related to the Dream Depot, and Subcon isn't on Pop Star too. There's no reason why'd Pop Star only exist in the world of dreams.
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Post by EpicGyllynn on Nov 28, 2010 17:22:57 GMT -5
Dream Depot? I don't recognize that as even existing, as I don't consider that MP as canon. The reason I came up with that theory is because it seems like a more over-the-top, surreal version of Mushroom Earth.
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Post by SMBBQ on Nov 28, 2010 19:30:05 GMT -5
Nah, it's just a weird planert. Subcon would be made up of dreams, and I believe that's an entirely different dimension anyway...
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Post by EpicGyllynn on Nov 29, 2010 16:28:12 GMT -5
Well, my theory still stands; Either, A)It is a Planet in the Mushroom Universe, or, B)It is a Sub-Dimension of the Mushroom Universe, or, C)It is a Realm directly linked to the Mushroom World(Remember my whole "Kingdom Hearts Effect?").
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Post by cheat-master30 on Nov 29, 2010 18:17:04 GMT -5
Back to the topic... I'm not sure if Donkey Kong Land 2 would be canon. My guess would be any unique content would be counted as canonical as happening in the SNES Donkey Kong Country equivalent game, so any different levels would be counted as if they were part of Donkey Kong Country 2.
So to put it simply:
For ports, all different content (additional stuff) is counted as if happened in the original. So for Mario 64 DS, I'd presume the extra characters were there all along, and for Donkey Kong Land and Donkey Kong Country GBA, the additions were parts that happened off screen back in the SNES days due to bad memory or whatever. So Krazy Koaster AND Haunted Hall both took place, as did both Castle Crush and Dungeon Danger. Kerozene and Kroctopus were off screen in the SNES version but are also counted as being canonical and being hence fought then off camera. New characters and such were there but not originally seen.
However, exceptions need to made in a few cases. It's possible Donkey Kong Land 3 was seperate in canon because the map was entirely different and the story and bosses were rather different, and Donkey Kong Land isn't a port at all is counted as an entirely seperate adventure.
Make sense?
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Post by SMBBQ on Nov 29, 2010 21:19:25 GMT -5
Yeah, that sounds about right.
Okay then, Donkey Kong Land and Donkey Kong Land 3 aren't ports, but Donkey Kong Land 2 is. Do we all agree?
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