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Ztar
Sept 22, 2010 12:05:31 GMT -5
Post by Your Buddy Bill on Sept 22, 2010 12:05:31 GMT -5
I have theorized that Ztars are actually made of a substance that resembles that which a star is made up of, but with a strange property. The Ztar material will combine with the star material and neutralize it in a strange chemical reaction (not unlike that of matter and antimatter's supposed annihilation when combined), also firing off other substances attached to either. (This is not an issue in the Mario Party series, because those stars are pure, as are the Ztars involved. The coin Ztar has been re-engineered so that the reaction will instead occur with whatever it is that Coins are made of, and the matter and energy equals out to about 20 coins. Any energy not lost, like if the player had less than 20 coins, goes away to help form a new Ztar, making combo variants possible, but unlikely, as there can not be a Ztar that takes away half of a star.)The seven star pieces, however, are much more powerful than that, with almost limitless energy/material/etc. The "Dark Star" attack would 'summon' a special Ztar variant, which has added bulk and size due to large amounts of matter and energy impurities within.(These impurities also account for it's dark-grey with black eyes color scheme) Thusly, when it combined with an equal amount of Star energy from 1 of the 7 stars, it would neutralize that energy as well as it's Ztar energy, and the impurities would then damage Mario and party. Or it might just land on them In older MP games where they didn't take away a star, the Ztars were likely just being used by Bowser for their similar energy signature that alerts whoever the host is where the star or Ztar is located. Bowser recalled these Ztars before they could neutralize anything, as they were just too valuable at the moment and had already served their purpose. (As an alternative, it has been mentioned above that it resembles the antimatter reaction, so Ztars may just be antimatter stars, though it raises questions because some theories say that antimatter will neutralize any matter, though others claim it only annihilates it's matter equivalent.) Anyways, that's my theory.
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Ztar
Sept 22, 2010 15:32:02 GMT -5
Post by SMBBQ on Sept 22, 2010 15:32:02 GMT -5
I'm not the most scientifically-minded, but I do like the idea of antimatter.
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Ztar
Sept 22, 2010 21:02:32 GMT -5
Post by Vent on Sept 22, 2010 21:02:32 GMT -5
I like to think Bowser magically created the Ztars, and they're made of the exact opposite energy from the usual Stars. If a Ztar and a Star make contact the opposite energy signals cancel each other out, causing both to disappear.
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Ztar
Sept 23, 2010 12:09:34 GMT -5
Post by Your Buddy Bill on Sept 23, 2010 12:09:34 GMT -5
That's kind of already in there. I meant the matter and energy would neutralize. As for Bowser creating them, they first appeared in the 'Dark Star' attack of SMRPG for the SNES. Thusly, Smithy's forces used them before Bowser, though Bowser may have created them and never got a chance to use them, but I think it's more likely that after SMRPG, Bowser did research into the powerful attack, and (re)discovered Ztars. He isnt the first or only one to use them, just the one who has used them the most.
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Ztar
Oct 7, 2010 21:20:40 GMT -5
Post by rhinotaur on Oct 7, 2010 21:20:40 GMT -5
I didn't remember the 20 Coin Ztar's actually stealing 20 players coins. If I remember correctly, you had to give 20 coins to the fake toad with the Ztar, and then he'd give you Ztar, which actually does nothing at all. So really you get ripped off 20 coins and end up with a useless star.
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Ztar
Oct 7, 2010 21:23:58 GMT -5
Post by Le Mario Bro on Oct 7, 2010 21:23:58 GMT -5
But in later games, Bowser gave you a Ztar for free and you end up losing a star.
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Ztar
Oct 7, 2010 21:27:01 GMT -5
Post by rhinotaur on Oct 7, 2010 21:27:01 GMT -5
Doh! I should look into those later Mario Parties.
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Ztar
Oct 7, 2010 21:30:35 GMT -5
Post by Le Mario Bro on Oct 7, 2010 21:30:35 GMT -5
Yeah, I kinda jumped on the bandwagon rather late with MP5, so I wouldn't know what happened before the Gamecube was invented. And ever since, I've gotten every single one except for Advance. Still lookin' for that one.
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Ztar
Oct 7, 2010 21:33:55 GMT -5
Post by rhinotaur on Oct 7, 2010 21:33:55 GMT -5
I hear Mario Party Advance isn't all that great, but you should probably get it anyways for completion.
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Ztar
Oct 8, 2010 8:15:41 GMT -5
Post by PDoogan on Oct 8, 2010 8:15:41 GMT -5
Yeah, I kinda jumped on the bandwagon rather late with MP5. Heh, that's kind of the exact opposite of what I did. I've played all of them up to 5. After that I started to realize how redundant the series was.
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Ztar
Oct 8, 2010 12:07:03 GMT -5
Post by Your Buddy Bill on Oct 8, 2010 12:07:03 GMT -5
I only own 8, though ive playd 6 with my cousins. I just checked the Mariowiki article for all necessary info.
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Ztar
Oct 8, 2010 16:29:06 GMT -5
Post by kingkoopa on Oct 8, 2010 16:29:06 GMT -5
I have all of them except for 1, 4 and Advance (However I have a save file for for on my Gamecube)
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Ztar
Oct 9, 2010 17:00:52 GMT -5
Post by EpicGyllynn on Oct 9, 2010 17:00:52 GMT -5
I didn't get Mario Part until 4, and I skipped over 5 and got 6, skipped 7 & 8. But now I'm getting Wii Party... sigh... I only wish it retained the Mario Party name and characters... I loved MP1, 2, 3, & 4... Maybe someday Mario Party will make a comeback!
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Ztar
Oct 9, 2010 22:19:29 GMT -5
Post by kingkoopa on Oct 9, 2010 22:19:29 GMT -5
Wii Party looks like its strength is with the multiplayer. But same goes for all the other Mario Parties. Some of the special minigames in Wii Party actually do look fun though.
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