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Post by cheat-master30 on Sept 19, 2010 18:57:05 GMT -5
Random question, and I'm not going to think about this a whole lot, but would it even be possible for the Mushroom Kingdom wildlife to form any kind of functional ecosystem?
A few issues:
1. Most Mario (and Yoshi's Island, Donkey Kong Country and Wario) series wildlife is made up of likely obligate carnivores. Really. Yes, some background life and decoration exists, but said species are far outnumbered by those that seem to subsist purely on luckless explorers.
2. Many, many different sentinent species and civilisations. Now, I recall reading on certain sites about science fiction and such that multiple sentinent species on one planet causes problems for various aspects, that will lead to the likely extinction of at least one of them.
And the Mario series is really, really over the top here, with near enough every major species having real world human level intelligent, society and civilisation.
3. Does the equivalent to the square cube law exist in the series? I'm going to guess it can't somehow, because likely most larger Mario series creatures violate it in some way or another (especially scaled up mooks like Goombas and such which apparently exist in about ten different sizes). You can probably excuse the Mario Galaxy bosses here, presumably many of the large robots (and Gobblegut) can only exist in near zero gravity situations.
You still have to wonder how many, many things would work. Bellario's maxim is right at work here, because frankly, even most final boss castles would probably just collapse if you attempted to make them on Earth (really, I hear past a certain number of stories, brick and stone can't support their own weight).
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Post by SMBBQ on Sept 19, 2010 20:05:14 GMT -5
Hmm, I hadn't thought of this before.
Also, there's plenty of species that have never spoken. Although since my mind is seriously depleted, I can only think of most DKC enemies here.
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Post by cheat-master30 on Sept 19, 2010 20:18:23 GMT -5
I know most don't speak, but my general point was that the series had far, far more such intelligent species than pretty much any other fictional universe (by quantity, not by overall intelligence). Most fantasy only has about five of these species, Mario probably has about fifty of them. There are other points of course. What would the needed differences in physical laws of nature statistically be? How much weaker is the gravity on Mushroom World? Heck, do invasive species exist? I'd have thought Bowser, Fawful and K Rool's attacks must have utterly destroyed any native ecosystems thanks to all the better adapted introduced species in their armies. Think about how many of Bowser's troops became Mushroom Kingdom native wildlife? Answer: Probably hundreds of types numbering millions. Real world ecology can be wrecked just by escaped and introduced domestic cats and dogs in remote areas. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasive_speciesEven unremarkable seeming, quick spreading minor plant species in the real world can wipe out native ones through increased competition. What makes up much of Bowser's army is large megafauna (aka, most boss species and powerful mooks). It wouldn't be just like introducing cats to Mushroom Kingdom, it'd be like reintroducing a T Rex population.
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Post by cheat-master30 on Sept 22, 2010 16:14:13 GMT -5
So, any ideas on this?
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Post by SMBBQ on Sept 22, 2010 16:24:33 GMT -5
Well, some species also appear to only exist in certain regions, as well. Like, for example, I somehow doubt species like Beanishes would do well in a cold environment, what with them seemingly being plants.
What I'm trying to say is it seems most species can only survive in one area. If Gnawties from DKC started migrating toToad Town, they probably wouldn't survive in the area. They need their ecosystem, and theirs only.
That didn't make any sense, did it?
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Post by cheat-master30 on Sept 22, 2010 16:45:33 GMT -5
Made perfect sense, they're adapted to their environment, like the general outcome of real world evolution in various species. I'm still curious how certain species in the series can apparently survive environments totally unlike their native one...
Goombas, Koopas, Kremlings and Zingers, the various Wario Land enemies (gooms, Dangerous Ducks). Although we never do see an origin for these species in game, so they might just be really hardy and almost completely resistant to various environment issues. Well, that and most are seen as somewhat sentinent, and it's such species in the real world (okay, going off the sample size of one) that tend to cope with all kinds of locations.
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