Random thought, but who would win...

[cheat-master30]

Or what about Retry Clocks? Endless time loop? I presume they exist outside the battle system, right?

[Artemendo]

Well, that would let them retry the battle indefinitely, but... if the humans are otherwise overpowered, this would just prolong the suffering (I assume the user of the Retry Clock retains the memories of the erased version of the battle, or else he'd just do the exact same things again and die again).

[cheat-master30]

True, but you can delay the outcome. If the other side doesn't have the technology, you can just try literally everything until you win.

[Sarisa]

I actually meant that the Marioverse could reverse-engineer modern tech and then have guns just as good as the Earth-humans'.

[Vent]

In a battle of Bill Blasters vs. machine guns, I think they have us beaten. If any of them die, all they'd need is a 1-Up Mushroom.

Not to mention, Artemendo keeps saying the bosses die from jumps, but don't really know how strong they are or how strong Mario's is. For all we know, jumping on enemies' heads is a fine martial art in the Mushroom Kingdom, and Mario's skill level is enough to crush an ordinary person's head.

I remember Goomaria saying that Goombario's head was "as hard as a rock", which is why I question the assumed toughness of jumps.

[SMBBQ]

I haven't played Paper Mario in a long time. Are you sure that wasn't just a playful insult?

[Artemendo]

Look, there's a difference between a martial art, no matter how strong, and a freaking gun, much more a missile. It doesn't matter how strong your Kung Fu is, a bullet to the head will kill you. Maybe Mario's jumps are like rocks, but rocks are almost nothing compared to actual weapons. Maybe in Star Wars, rocks and primitive technology could win against advanced one, but this is not how it works in the real world. Throughout history, even slight technical advantages were often the reason for victory.

Oh, and sarisa, reverse-engineer? The only Mario game with technology comparable to ours which would mean they could was Super Paper Mario, and that was a couple of different dimensions. Of course, there's the possibility to duplicate our weapons with magic... if they find out how they work and manage to train an army in using them during the battle, we're screwed.

[Meta Black Yoshi]

Couldn't we use their weapons against them too though? And what about Mario? Would he help us?

[Vent]

Even we used bullets, It's not like the residents of Mario's world can't take one. I was saying before that if some of them require a rock-hard jump or fist-sized fireballs to snuff out, regular bullets are liable to have little to no effect.

[Artemendo]

A bullet is stronger than a rock because of its speed. In comics and other fiction, this is misrepresented; the old hilarity of Superman taking bullets to the chest, but ducking when the gun gets thrown at him, comes to mind. A jump like Mario's is blunt force trying to break armor/tissue/whatever, a bullet pierces it, and seriously, why am I talking? Bullets are simply deadlier. Everyone knows that.

The only attacks native to Mario's world that have the same strength as firearms are the upper-class magic attacks like lightning bolts or the Breaker Beam.

Ah, and about resilience: Bowser might be argued to have an extremely tough hide, but nothing prevents you from shooting him in his eyes, or his conveniently almost always open mouth.

[Meta Black Yoshi]

Or tear gas, that might work.

[Le Mario Bro]

*holds nose*

Who invited Wario?

*rimshot*

Have you all forgotten the joyous "Do do do, do do dodo do" reveille that is the Starman?

[Artemendo]

Ha, I DID forget that! But the thing is, the Starman doesn't help against completely overwhelming things like lava and pits. And pressure. If the humans find that out, they might find a way to implement that strategy.

[EpicGyllynn]

MW has Magic. RW doesn't. End of story.

Seriously though, MW wouldwin by a long shot.

[Le Mario Bro]

Artemendo: I can see it now.

"Men, scientists have been working on some brand new technology that will surely bring those 'Shrooms to their knees. Even with those godd***ed Starmen.

"Behold! The Black Hole Gun(c)!"

[Artemendo]

But... but... I know, magic and all that, but nuclear weapons are POWERFUL. We've never seen anything of that power in the Mushroom World except the Void... which would just kill both sides.

However. I guess there's just another banal reason we won't win. We simply don't have enough nukes to cover the surface of the Mushroom World. I read somewhere we only have enough for 10% of the Earth... and the Mushroom World, as we have seen, is much, much bigger.

[Koopalmier]

I think that Invincible Mario actually resists to lava and pression, but you still get a Game Over because the lava pits are too deep to get out of them (and you'll eventually go back to your normal state and die), and the same goes for "endless" pits. Considering Mario can become Metal Mario as long as he wants if he gets the transformation by eating a whole bottle of Megavitamins, maybe that he could beat a whole army with this.

[EpicGyllynn]

Mario+Broque Monsier's collection of Blocks=Death to Mankind

I would make this next statement here, but it's better to make a new thread! See ya!

[Artemendo]

Yeah, it's just that Broque Monsieur HATES Mario.

[Le Mario Bro]

Well, not HATE-hate so much as, UR DOIN IT RONG-hate.

Then again, he's kind of a hypocrite. Aren't all Frenchies like that, though? (Apologies to Koopalmier.)

If you look at Broque Monsieur's Bowser Battle Tutorial, he uses the blocks in the EXACT same way that Mario does. And he can't say that those blocks were expendable since he had several with Megashrooms in 'em.