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Post by cheat-master30 on Aug 25, 2010 17:38:48 GMT -5
The same place, or different versions?
Take Bowser's Castle. In Mario Kart, there are about 14 different versions of the track, and they're at least implied to exist at the same time. Are they all part of a giant Bowser's Castle location which also contains the golf course, tennis court, likely football stadium, baseball diamond, Mario Party boards with 'Bowser' in the name and all the platformer levels, or about twenty different castles under Bowser's ownership?
*Pictures a Blue Shell flying into the tennis court, or a golf ball hitting a character on the head in an RPG battle, or a stray go kart flying through the Super Mario Bros 3 level and into the lava*
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Post by EpicGyllynn on Aug 25, 2010 18:19:10 GMT -5
As we know, Bowsers Castle is constantly subject to change, and renovation, but I'd say that at least some of them are just designed to be Courses, and I bet the Mushroom Kingdom oversees it's design(I'd imagine there are Guard Rails to prevent the Racers from plummeting to their Death... Well, the Racers besides Mario... He would just leap out with his butt on Fire). Meaning, they aren't intended to be his Base of Operations, just temporary Race Tracks on the Outskirts of his Kingdom.
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Post by Vent on Aug 25, 2010 22:08:00 GMT -5
Bowser is known to have multiple castles, so he probably rebuilds these courses repeatedly.
The same could hold true for any of the other courses. It's not unusual to assume the estate around Peach's Castle consists of a racetrack, a golf course, a tennis court and a baseball field. She probably has them renovated regularly, being royalty and all.
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Post by Koopalmier on Aug 26, 2010 1:24:27 GMT -5
I'd rather say the castles in sports spin-offs are only constructed to be race tracks and stuff. Same goes for the Peach Castles (yes, even the one in Mario Kart 64: it could've been canon, but it is contradicted by Super Mario Galaxy, which has an higher level of canon).
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Post by shadowgoomba on Aug 26, 2010 11:24:19 GMT -5
I don't think it's necessarily a different castle so much as inaccurate where the racetrack really is. I think it could be nearby her castle, just not as close as is depicted in Mario Kart 64.
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Post by EpicGyllynn on Aug 26, 2010 14:56:41 GMT -5
The Race-tracks are definitely under constant renovation, anyway, look at Mario Circuit. As for the Raceway in MK64, it could have been Canon if it was only a temporary course, because at that time Toad Town wasn't right on the heels of Peach's Castle, just really close. But thats not a very good one, I'd say that they are rebuilt for each new Grand Prix, and they are just "near" her castle, like ShadoGoomba said. Except for the Track in MK3DS screenshots which depicts the road going through her Castle, I'd say that was just for show, especially considering how small it is.
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Post by Koopalmier on Aug 26, 2010 15:01:52 GMT -5
The castle is quite small in its other MK appearances too. And it's too far of Toad Town - don't forget a part of the town is right next to the castle. I'd rather say that every Peach's Castle in Mario Kart is a fake, to make the aera more interesting. I also don't think every Mario Circuit (for instance) is the same, due to their different location (none have the same background). I rather think that they construct it, and then destroy it, or reconstruct it later at a different place, or connect it to the most near road.
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Post by EpicGyllynn on Aug 26, 2010 15:18:35 GMT -5
Thats what I meant, they reconstruct them, but not in the same location, I mean, in MKWii it's in Toad Town.
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Post by Koopalmier on Aug 26, 2010 15:23:43 GMT -5
I don't think it's really Toad Town you see in MKWii though, but I get your point.
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Post by EpicGyllynn on Aug 27, 2010 19:11:27 GMT -5
The main reason I think it's Toad Town is the similar Architecture to that of SMRPG, and the Castle is basically to scale with her Castle in the main series.
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Post by Koopalmier on Aug 27, 2010 20:12:46 GMT -5
The area outside of that is nothing like Toad Town or Pleasant Path though. There's no sea either.
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Post by Vent on Aug 27, 2010 20:16:48 GMT -5
Who cares? It could easily be a side of Toad Town we didn't see in PM or M&L.
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Post by Koopalmier on Aug 28, 2010 7:29:41 GMT -5
But it's right next to Peach's Castle. The only explanation would be that Toad Town is actually quite big - which I don't believe.
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Post by Vent on Aug 28, 2010 15:48:27 GMT -5
Toad Town IS right next to Peach's Castle!
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Post by cheat-master30 on Aug 28, 2010 15:49:59 GMT -5
^True, see all Mario and Luigi games, some Mario Kart games, both Mario Galaxy games...
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Post by Koopalmier on Aug 28, 2010 18:16:03 GMT -5
That's what I mean. Toad Town is right next to Peach's castle, and the area is flat (plus the town is constructed over a lake or some kind of water point). In MKWii, the zone isn't flat though. Although it may just be a meaningless redesign... Does it really matter anyway ? If it's not Toad Town and Peach's actual castle, we don't know where it is anyway.
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Post by Vent on Aug 28, 2010 19:22:27 GMT -5
The area's not flat, so that means it's not Toad Town? My God....
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Post by Le Mario Bro on Aug 29, 2010 13:41:47 GMT -5
Well, considering if the topography doesn't change in that short amount of time, I think we can assume that it's some other location set aside specifically for Mario Karting.
Edit: I may or may not have used the word "Topography" wrong in the way I used it. Please don't yell at me, Artemendo. Or hit me with a dictionary.
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Post by Artemendo on Aug 29, 2010 13:46:20 GMT -5
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Post by Le Mario Bro on Aug 29, 2010 13:50:52 GMT -5
Yeah well, I can only have around 30 words in my vocabulary at any given moment, but you know what I meant.
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