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Post by Claws on May 3, 2006 20:14:35 GMT -5
Lately I've been heavily researching the creation/evolution debate. To my dismay I've been steadily marching toward the conclusion that evolution is a scientific fact. This is unsettling to me as it debunks the literal interpretation of the Bible that I've been taught since infancy and consequently my entire worldview.
So that got me thinking about the origins of the Mushroom Earth. Obviously in the Mushroom Dimension there are supernatural beings. My question is, Did they have a part in shaping the Mushroom Earth, and if so, which ones did it? Or was the Mushroom Earth and Universe formed by natural causes? Was life in the Mushroom Universe shaped by natural selection?
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Post by PDoogan on May 4, 2006 9:22:53 GMT -5
The animals of the mushroom world seem to fit into one of two categories: Animals that share a resemblance and possibly a common ancestor to those found on earth, such a koopas, and animals that seem to have evolved from something totally different altogether, usually being of elemental origin, like clefts or lava bubbles. The only theory I have been able to came up with so far, is the only tidbit of information in the Super Mario Bros. movie that I didn't consider totally bogus. In the beginning narration of the movie, it says something about how the meteor that killed the dinosaurs, was responsible for tearing a rift between the two dimensions. This would explain the fact that there are dinosaurs in the Mushroom world, as well as some very earth like creatures. As for the other category of animals that seem to have no earthly origins, it's kind up in the air. It could be the fact that things work a little different in the Mushroom dimension, but that's leaving it a bit open ended... Yeah, I got alot of free time on my hands to think about these things
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Post by Toomai on May 4, 2006 17:16:29 GMT -5
In my opinion, there are multiple elemental deities that are subordinates of the greater power. They each had a hand in creating the Mushroom World under the guidance of their leader.
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Post by Claws on May 6, 2006 13:43:34 GMT -5
I really like the meteor theory. As you said, the animals in the Mushroom Dimension that resemble those in our world could have begun crossing into the Mushroom Dimension from our Earth about sixty-five million years ago and branching off into things like Koopas.
Now, as for those otherworldly creatures, I believe that they had been evolving on Mushroom Earth much the same as life as we know it had been developing on our Earth. Things like Clefts and Lava Bubbles are native to the Mushroom Dimension (i.e. their ancestors originated on Mushroom Earth).
I'm not sure how to fit things like the Star Spirits and such into this. Are they natural or supernatural beings?
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Post by PDoogan on May 6, 2006 16:38:53 GMT -5
I think with the stars it depends on which ones your talking about. The star Spirts are probably immortal, Probably the Mushroom world equivalent of a god, who watches over the planet and makes sure nobody tries to destroy it or anything. As for the regular starmen/starkids/whatever, I'd go with mortal. They're are alot of them, and they seem to be living in a community just like any other race, waiting to grant someones wish.
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Post by Claws on May 17, 2006 6:58:09 GMT -5
I don't think the Star Spirits created the Mushroom Universe. I think they were some of the first things formed, and that they took it upon themselves to watch over the world.
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Post by Toomai on May 17, 2006 14:36:27 GMT -5
Maybe the "supreme beings" could be one of each prominent species: one is human, one is a Toad, another is a Yoshi, the fourth is a Koopa, etc.
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Post by PDoogan on May 17, 2006 15:20:08 GMT -5
Perhaps the stars (all of them, not just the star spirts) were the original inhabitants of the planet. They seem to be rather reveared and looked up to by the Mushroom world citizens (I.e the Paper Mario games, the fact that every other thing in the Mario Party series is shaped like a star or has on on it, ect...)
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Post by Claws on May 20, 2006 8:18:06 GMT -5
You're right; the Mushroom Kingdom does have an obsession with stars. New topic time!
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Post by Claws on Jun 4, 2006 22:49:49 GMT -5
Did humans evolve on Mushroom Earth, or did they simply emigrate from our Earth? Evolution is so interesting; natural selection is dependent on so many factors that the same organisms could become completely different things given the chance to develop in a different environment.
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Post by PDoogan on Jun 5, 2006 7:06:01 GMT -5
I belive they came from earth. Do you know wshat the chances of to creature evolving into a nearly identical animal on a different planet, let alone a different demention, under seperate conditions would be? Besides, it dosen't seem very hard to get to the Mushroom demention as it is.
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Post by Claws on Jun 13, 2006 11:26:15 GMT -5
Good point. I wonder if any animals from the Mushroom Dimension migrated to our dimension and took odd evolutionary paths? Perhaps some of the ancestors of the animals in the DKC games originated in the Mushroom Dimension.
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Post by PDoogan on Jun 13, 2006 11:31:25 GMT -5
I can't think of anything of fthe top of my head that might fall into that category. I seems to be more of a one way path from earth to the mushroom world, and not the other way around. The DKC thing is a good therory, but that wouldn't explain why we don't see animals like that in the Mario games.
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Post by Toomai on Jun 13, 2006 15:16:35 GMT -5
They could have been driven out by more dominant species.
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Post by Claws on Jun 25, 2006 23:33:26 GMT -5
There are some similarities between living things on Mushroom Earth and those on Popstar. Do you guys think life arose independently on each planet or that one planet's organisms had an effect on the other's?
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