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Post by Meta Black Yoshi on Mar 4, 2007 14:06:37 GMT -5
In alot of Mario games koopa shells act fairly normal, normal for a mario game anyway. But sometimes it seems like they might contain some kind of special power are something. In Mario 64 Mario could ride or surf on top of one over watter and lava and up step hills mowing down just about anything that got in the way. In the Mario Kart games the red shells seem almost alive or something, and the spinny shells too. Red shells also give yoshis ability to breath fire, and blue gives them the ability to fly. Yellow shells make koopas invincable but only when they jump into one, and if a yoshi eats it it gains a ground pound like ability. I think that some of these shells may be the shells of Magikoopas but that dosn't explain the rest. What dose everyone think?
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Post by Rex on Mar 4, 2007 14:46:49 GMT -5
I don't think magikoopas have (or need for that matter) shells.
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Post by Meta Black Yoshi on Mar 4, 2007 14:48:23 GMT -5
But all the different types of koopas must have had shells at one point in their life.
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Post by Rex on Mar 4, 2007 14:51:05 GMT -5
At some point in there life, koopa shells must become unnessesary.
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Post by Meta Black Yoshi on Mar 4, 2007 14:54:40 GMT -5
So I'm saying some of those shells like the ones Mario surfs on might be magikoopa shells.
And those shells had absorbed some of the magikoopa's power.
And why do you think koopa shells must become uneccesary? They provide some protection from attacks. I guess if you had enugh magical power to make sure you never got hit by attacks then the shell would just be weighing you down. Makes since for magikoopas, but unless a koopa really needs to be moving fast if it dosn't have any magical abilities it's better off keeping the shell.
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Post by Rex on Mar 4, 2007 15:03:55 GMT -5
First, stop tripple posting. Second, what I mean by unnessesary is that in the early stages of a koopas life the shell is attached to the body the way turtles shells are, and as it gets older the shell detaches and becomes an accessory.
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Post by PDoogan on Mar 4, 2007 15:24:36 GMT -5
I think the shell may form as the koopa ages. Kind of like the little blurb about squirtle in the pokemon games about how their back hardens into a shell after they hatch. The reason I asume this is the fact that Jr. Troopa in PM had no shell (besides his egg shell). After the koopa finishes growing, the shells probably become detachable, as rex said. --------- As for the magikoopas, there's no reason why they can't be whereing a shell. Their robes are pretty loose, I'd expect there to be room for a shell under there.
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Post by Meta Black Yoshi on Mar 4, 2007 15:27:32 GMT -5
Makes sense. But I want to add that just because the shell becomes detachable dosn't meen it is not still usefull as extra protection.
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Post by Toomai on Mar 4, 2007 17:11:12 GMT -5
Koopa shells seem pretty invincible, so it's not too farfetched for Mario to ride one over bad terrain.
As for the ones in Mario Kart, they're obviously mass-produced as kart weaponry and are not intended to house Koopas (they break easily, some home in, etc).
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Post by PDoogan on Mar 4, 2007 18:06:30 GMT -5
Koopa shells are definatly lava-proof, considering Bowser's shell didn't disintegrate along with his flesh after he fell into the lava in NSMB.
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Post by Meta Black Yoshi on Mar 4, 2007 18:28:37 GMT -5
So what dose everyone think about the shells in SMW giving yoshis different special abilities.
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Post by Yoshi Master on Mar 4, 2007 23:24:14 GMT -5
Magikoopas don't show any sign of a shell under their cloaks, no bump, ect.
Plus you forget the shells Yoshis get are from regular Koopas, not magikoopas.
Not to sure about blue shells, they seem synthetic, and theirs a tracking system or magic in the red shells.
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Post by L.D. on Mar 4, 2007 23:34:11 GMT -5
So what dose everyone think about the shells in SMW giving yoshis different special abilities. I think we discussed this before in the biology of yoshi
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Post by Rex on Mar 5, 2007 10:21:27 GMT -5
I'm too lazy to read through 8 pages of Yoshi biology.
I think there is something in a yellow shell that sends a signal to a yoshis brain, telling it to reinforce all tissue, thus making him heavier.
A chemical in a yoshis saliva mixes with a chemical in a red shell making a substance that combusts on contact with oxygen.
Blue shell is anyones guess.
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Post by Toomai on Mar 5, 2007 16:30:46 GMT -5
I'm too lazy to read through 8 pages of Yoshi biology. It's more like 5 pages of biology and 3 on language. But anyway... From the conclusions in the Yoshi topic, red shells contain an enzyme that combines with the Yoshi's highly acidic saliva to produce a combustible chemical. Yellow shells give the Yoshi what Claws called an "anabolic steroid" or something, which quickly develops muscles. And I think the blue shell answer was either magic or hidden wing pouches.
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Post by Rex on Mar 5, 2007 16:37:34 GMT -5
I don't think yoshis saliva is acidic, if you spit out enemys they are just the same as usual.
Yoshi called himself "super dragon yoshi" at the end of SMW, but because of the portable wings on the cheese bridge I think the wings you get from eating blue shells are magical.
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Post by Toomai on Mar 5, 2007 16:43:24 GMT -5
I don't think yoshis saliva is acidic, if you spit out enemys they are just the same as usual. We had decided Yoshis can control the dispersal of the acid. And yeah, I forgot about the wings found in blocks.
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Post by Rex on Mar 5, 2007 16:49:41 GMT -5
There are also wings in the valley of bowser and way-cool. by the way the offisial name for them is yoshi's wings.
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Post by Meta Black Yoshi on Mar 14, 2007 16:44:00 GMT -5
So what dose everyone think about the shells in SMW giving yoshis different special abilities.
I think that all koopas are required to take certain magic courses when they are young before going into full service for Bowser. Over time the shells absorb certain kinds of magical energies depending on what kind of magic the koopa was studying. The course they take is simply decided on the color of their shell so it's really just a coincidince that each shell has the power it dose when a yoshi eats it. How dose magic work in the Marioverse anyway?
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Post by L.D. on Mar 14, 2007 23:23:09 GMT -5
So what dose everyone think about the shells in SMW giving yoshis different special abilities. I think that all koopas are required to take certain magic courses when they are young before going into full service for Bowser. Over time the shells absorb certain kinds of magical energies depending on what kind of magic the koopa was studying. The course they take is simply decided on the color of their shell so it's really just a coincidince that each shell has the power it dose when a yoshi eats it. How dose magic work in the Marioverse anyway? I think that magic courses are for soo-to-be magikoopas koopa's have a chemical on the shell that causes the powers
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