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Post by kingkoopa on Dec 2, 2010 17:08:28 GMT -5
Making a full blown wiki just being Super Mario Wiki isn't the most canon thing in the world seems a little like jumping the gun don't cha think? If we were to make some big wiki full of theories, I think that we would need to list what theories we have in a sepearate topic first/
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Post by SMBBQ on Dec 2, 2010 18:11:16 GMT -5
That was my initial idea. I'll make one sometime...
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Post by 1up on Dec 2, 2010 19:48:06 GMT -5
I don't see what the big deal is. They're doing their best to fill in the blanks left in the Marioverse by Nintendo.
Besides, they only really do that on the character bios... If you look up any of the games, they make no mention to the cartoons or comics...
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Post by kingkoopa on Dec 2, 2010 20:03:47 GMT -5
Yeah, I really don't see the big problem with any of this. Mariowiki information is still 100% fact (by this I mean that it was said somewhere). It might not be canon, but they did get the information from somewhere and aren't saying ridiculous things like Bowser is actually Weegee's alternate form or anything like that.
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Post by EpicGyllynn on Dec 2, 2010 20:06:47 GMT -5
The point isn't competing against SMW, I just wanted to organize the theories, and it's easier if we have the articles on-site. Plus I just really enjoy the Wiki format.
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Post by Vent on Dec 8, 2010 20:14:48 GMT -5
I dislike Mario Wiki because it's generally poorly organized and maintained. Roughly 80% of the articles on there are stubs and the people running it have their priorities in the wrong place.
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Post by EpicGyllynn on Dec 8, 2010 21:12:13 GMT -5
Good points, DINO.
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Post by Le Mario Bro on Dec 8, 2010 21:15:38 GMT -5
But aren't all Wikis like that?
After all, its information relies solely on its patrons and random passerby.
Sure, they cite their sources and all that, but it's still not all that organized.
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Post by 1up on Dec 9, 2010 15:37:06 GMT -5
I agree with mariobro364.
The best solution to fixing any problems you may have with Super Mario Wiki is to join Super Mario Wiki and fix the problems yourself.
It's already really popular and contains tons of material. Simply editing that wiki would be much easier and smarter than trying to make a new Mario wiki from scratch.
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The_Cat
Not as new as the newest
..is not a ninja.
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Post by The_Cat on Dec 9, 2010 16:40:02 GMT -5
Mario Wiki is about as good as I'd expect a wiki about Mario could be. And that's pretty darn good :>
For some reason it used to load slowly for me awhile back, but that seems to be gone now. Probably because of Adblock+.
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Post by Koopalmier on Dec 9, 2010 16:56:36 GMT -5
Actually, something on the Main Page was taking much more space than needed.
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The_Cat
Not as new as the newest
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Post by The_Cat on Dec 9, 2010 17:16:49 GMT -5
Actually, something on the Main Page was taking much more space than needed. I meant everything was loading slow. Every individual page. |
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Post by Koopalmier on Dec 10, 2010 1:43:45 GMT -5
That's what I'm saying. It took so much space that it slowed down the whole website. Although your computer may have made it even slower for you, it still was slow.
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Post by Sarisa on Dec 11, 2010 1:18:00 GMT -5
So, if we're serious about making a theory wiki, we should start looking at hosts. I don't know the first thing about setting up a wiki, and don't own any servers, but I found this site purporting to compare wiki farms: www.wikimatrix.orgThen, if we're going to make a "canonical" list of our theories, what sort of things are included? Most threads aren't a coherent theory but a discussion of a topic that more often than not doesn't wind its way to a conclusion. Is the idea to post individual bits of work, like Koopalmier's timeline or 2257's work on the Shroob language? Is the idea to post matters that have become general consensus, like the layout of the PM series' Mushroom Kingdom? I hope the idea isn't to move all our discussions there. |
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Post by Artemendo on Dec 11, 2010 3:08:02 GMT -5
Having a wiki with the kind of "theories" we have on this forum, i.e. everyone has their own opinion on almost everything, is very counterproductive since the only possible ways for it to go are:
1. Everyone starts their own articles and no discussion takes place.
2. Everyone works on one article, deleting the stuff others said, which will lead to extreme flamewars and ad-hominem because, face it, everyone's opinion matters the same as everyone else's.
3. Everyone ADDS to one article, having threaded conversation, which is basically a forum. And we already have a forum!
Seriously, do you guys really think it's possible to "organize" our "knowledge" if we have almost never universally agreed on anything? Everyone who is against a theory can put forward 100+ arguments why it doesn't work, and since a lot of it is based on stuff not everyone would consider canon, there is no way of determining who is "more right". So all that's left is endless discussion, and we already are doing it here.
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Post by Koopalmier on Dec 11, 2010 4:09:43 GMT -5
^
THIS. MULTIPLE TIMES.
Seriously, it's not like the Pikmin Fanon wiki. "Mariology" is only about personal theories, and the only thing we can do about that is discussing. Mariology Forums is what we need, not a Mariology Wiki of some sort.
Although some kind of Mariology website (or blog) would be interesting. It could be used to have a list of the established facts about characters, locations, the timeline and such, and could be used as a database for all theories. But it may end up being forgetten, and it wouldn't be that useful anyway.
EDIT: All that can be done on a single topic, but there's no 'Spoilers' tag on Proboards (to hide things and thus to do so that the page isn't extremely long);
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Post by PDoogan on Dec 11, 2010 11:24:57 GMT -5
....You know, Art's post makes me realize something: Do we ever actually agree on anything, or are we just a bunch of people stating our own arguments? Where are the things that we do agree on documented? Why am I asking so many questions?
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Post by kingkoopa on Dec 11, 2010 11:35:23 GMT -5
Have some of us agreed on other people's theories? Yes. Have we all ever agreed on anything that hasn't been stated directly in a Mario game? No.
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Post by EpicGyllynn on Dec 13, 2010 1:20:39 GMT -5
@everyone
My idea wouldn't be for us to make a "Canonical" Theory Wiki. I apologize for the misunderstanding. Here would be examples of articles:
-My Timeline
-Koopalmier's Timeline
-"All Galaxies in SMG/SMG2 are pieces of Mushroom Earth" Theory (well, we obviously wouldn't call it that, lol)
-Mushroom World=Mushroom Kingdom Theory
...And so on, and so so forth. See what I mean, now?
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Post by Sarisa on Dec 13, 2010 1:31:10 GMT -5
So you meant a repository for large-scale individual theoretical works, in wiki format because it wouldn't require the central administration that a Web 1.0 webpage would require?
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