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Post by Koopalmier on Nov 28, 2010 17:05:08 GMT -5
Lol, so you say the anime isn't canon, then you use the anime's map as a proof ?
I know it's not canon, but it's still the official anime.
And, these different names could be seen as alternative names, similarly to how Isle Delfino has two names in the Japanese version ("Isle Delfino" and "Dolphic Island") or to how every continent has a different name than in truth in the MOTHER series although it's still on Earth.
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Post by EpicGyllynn on Nov 28, 2010 17:07:47 GMT -5
But the Anime's map and Game Map are EXACTLY the same... Fine, here's a Map from the Game itself:  |
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Post by Koopalmier on Nov 28, 2010 17:10:36 GMT -5
The anime map puts all regions next to each other.
And the map for Kanto in the games (and anime) is part of the real Kantô map.
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Post by EpicGyllynn on Nov 28, 2010 17:13:54 GMT -5
In the games, Johto IS right next to Kanto! The other two are irrelevant, and Unova looks nothing at all like the Continental USA(Lower Manhattan is right next to a giant Desert?). Seriously, the games are based on real world locations, but is NOT, NEVER has been, and NEVER will be set on Earth.
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Post by joshi on Jul 8, 2011 5:17:44 GMT -5
...so I'm a little late but uh  (ignore that bit on the right) Unova is based off Manhatten. Someone (Masuda?) confirmed that. Also anyone who said the pokémon world isn't Earth: Surge is the Lightning American, Raichu and take down an Indian elephant, Arcanine was once considered mythological in China, and Mew was found in South America. All of these locations (including India) must therefore exist within that continuity, with Unova presumably being a region in the US, probably on/near the east coast. My sources are the sign outside Surge's gym, the journal in the Pokémon Lab on Cinnabar, and the pertinent Pokédex entries. Also for the guy who said Unova was a "series first" for not being based on Japan: Orre's based on like Arizona and stuff. I don't know that it's as specific as the handheld games, but Orre was definitely inspired by the American West. Edit: Oh, and yeah, the anime map is definitely non-canon to the games. The games are definitely more like Bulbapedia's version than anything else. |
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Post by kingkoopa on Jul 8, 2011 10:16:24 GMT -5
What makes you think that the Pokemon World is Earth? There aren't nearly as many hints to the Pokemon Earth being our Earth as there is for the Pikmin Distant Planet being our Earth. Not only that, but just because the locations draw inspiration from real places doesn't mean they are those real places.
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Post by Vent on Jul 8, 2011 12:18:22 GMT -5
It's either some sort of futuristic cyberpunk Earth or an alternate version of Earth.
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Post by rhinotaur on Jul 8, 2011 13:13:46 GMT -5
In the anime, it's pretty close to our Earth; Meowth once lived in Hollywood. Oh, and while we're on the subject, Earthbound's world isn't quite ours.  |
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Post by joshi on Jul 8, 2011 20:17:15 GMT -5
What makes you think that the Pokemon World is Earth? There aren't nearly as many hints to the Pokemon Earth being our Earth as there is for the Pikmin Distant Planet being our Earth. Not only that, but just because the locations draw inspiration from real places doesn't mean they are those real places. Surge is the Lightning American, Raichu and take down an Indian elephant, Arcanine was once considered mythological in China, and Mew was found in South America. The US, India, China, and South America are all Earth locations. There's some other stuff that comes up, too.That these locations exist, and that we visit regions that are geographically similar to other locations, seems to suggest that the world is, largely, Earth. Obviously it's not going to be exactly the same (New York would have to be pretty huge to fit that desert), but it's certainly more similar than the Mushroom world, and I think similar enough that you can reasonably conclude that any significant location should have a Poke-analogue. I recognise that none of this is strictly conclusive, but it seems likely enough IMO. It's either some sort of futuristic cyberpunk Earth or an alternate version of Earth. Pokepunk! Also thanks for not yelling at me for the bump, guys. |
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Post by Koopalmier on Jul 9, 2011 9:26:42 GMT -5
Well, now, in the anime, it's been clearly shown the planet is NOT Earth, although it has "counterpart" locations and may have the same name as well.
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Post by Vent on Jul 9, 2011 9:57:55 GMT -5
Need I remind you that the anime and the games are seperate continuities with seperate sets of characters and/or different portrayals of the characters along with the world.
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Post by Koopalmier on Jul 13, 2011 20:19:44 GMT -5
But the anime is official, so stuff from it CAN leak into the game universe.
Well, we'll see. Maybe.
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Post by kingkoopa on Jul 13, 2011 21:25:37 GMT -5
So does that make Ash=Red?
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Post by Vent on Jul 14, 2011 21:56:59 GMT -5
Just because its an official product doesn't mean its the same continuity.
The Sonic comic books are an official product and those are an obviously different continuity, for example.
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Post by Koopalmier on Jul 17, 2011 6:10:43 GMT -5
I know it's not the same continuity. What I mean is that concepts from these official products tend to leak into the games.
Concepts from the Sonic X series ended up in the (Sonic) games. Concepts from The Great Adventure to Save Princess Peach ended up in the games, and a couple stuff from the Super Mario-kun books ended up in the games as well.
That doesn't mean it's the same canon.
So, now, until it's further elaborated in the games or even in the anime, I won't consider the world of Pokémons to be Earth.
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