So how exactly is Mushroom World really habitable?

[cheat-master30]

Or at least, a decent place to live in? I always wondered how things like the towns in the series would even be considered remotely safe or livable.

I mean, someone must have at least lived there at one time, but how are these places... well, possible for a sentinent species to live in?

Twilight City (Mario vs Donkey Kong): There's just machinery, lasers, spike pits and metal beams everywhere.
Big Ape City (Donkey Kong Land): See above
Crescent Moon Village (Wario Land 4):200+ foot cliff in the middle of town, have to use the fire escape to even enter many of the buildings, electricity only on ground floor
Neon City (Wario Land The Shake Dimension): Live explosives in slot machines, really weird architecture, water, spikes.
Mushroom City (Mario spinoffs): Everyone drives like a lunatic at best, and if Moonview Highway is here, swerves all over the road to dodge speed boosts. If there's a speed limit, I'd love to see it.
Rogueport (Paper Mario the Thousand Year Door): It's basically the worst town in the series as far as street crime goes, if you decide not to count the hoardes of axe crazy ghosts in Hotel Horror as part of Crescent Moon Village)

Ah well, at least one level is blunt about it:

Train Timetable Derailed Express A schedule for the Derailed Express. Huh. It's scheduled to derail at 4:15. Weird.

I just don't get how anyone, with the above malevolent architecture and Bowser's quite frequent attacks can survive very long in the Mushroom World.

[EpicGyllynn]

Twilight City - It's probably not really a City, just an Industrial Park gone bad, or something.

Big Ape City - Populated by Kremlins. Nuff said.

Crescent Moon Village - I always thought the "Worlds" in this game were just made by Magic. Idk?

Neon City - Its in the Shake Dimmension, which is in a State of Turmoil when Wario arrives.

Mushroom City - I always thought that these weren't real Drivers, just people hired to pose as Obstacles for the Mario Kart Tournament.

Rogueport - Hence the name, "Rogueport"!

[Koopalmier]

If you look around in Moonview Highway, you'll notice a bunch of interesting stuff. For instance, Mario, Peach, Yoshi and Petey Piranha were part of a musical from the 3/21 to the 5/27. Or, the speed limit is 90.

[cheat-master30]

Aug 4, 2010 5:15:44 GMT -5 Koopalmier said:

If you look around in Moonview Highway, you'll notice a bunch of interesting stuff. For instance, Mario, Peach, Yoshi and Petey Piranha were part of a musical from the 3/21 to the 5/27. Or, the speed limit is 90.

Speed limit is 90? Jeez, no wonder people are driving like lunatics.

And my guess is the Wario Land 4 worlds are basically just connected to the pyramid like how the Mario 64 ones are connected to the castle by magic paintings. Heck, for the latter, Throwback Galaxy might well be the location the Whomp's Fortress painting links to.

That's because well... I doubt whoever built the pyramid had experience with the kinds of places to be made/found about a thousand years after its likely construction.

Neon City - Its in the Shake Dimmension, which is in a State of Turmoil when Wario arrives.

I wonder if it's possibly linked to this from the bio for Chortlebot. I can't find it, but the emblem description specifically said it was the 'last' robot clown, implying there's a good reason for that.

[kingkoopa]

Wasn't Rudy a robot clown?

[cheat-master30]

Probably not, but it's not as if his background got fleshed out much. And Wario Land loves it's creepy evil clowns.

[kingkoopa]

Clowns ARE the scariest creatures that exist.

[EpicGyllynn]

@kk
^This^

[cheat-master30]

Or in other words, the uncanny valley personified:



Seriously, Rudy looks evil, Chortlebot is disturbing and sounds like a Boo, but Clown-a-Round falls badly from the human side. It's almost like the Mario version of the Burger King.

[kingkoopa]

People said that the Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man wasn't scary either, look at what happened to New York after his "visit"

[Artemendo]

I think Twilight City and Big Ape City aren't that dangerous, it's just an old video game tradition to make the last levels of games so hard. Also, there is no way a city can be portrayed in a platformer, as a level, without looking ridiculously over-the-top dangerous. Since cities are the type of environment a modern gamer knows best, such discrepancies are also the most visible. No one complains about forest levels being unrealistic because we don't live in forests!
Such examples only illustrate why towns and cities should be used either in RPGs or as hubs (unless they are deserted and haunted or something, to remove their image from that of normal cities we know).

[EpicGyllynn]

True, and I don't think that Mushroom Cuty is so hectic! They probably just Isolate a Portion of the Road, and enlist people to Drive "Obsacle" Cars around at Break-neck Speeds to act as.. Well.. Obstacles.

[SMBBQ]

Aug 3, 2010 20:33:20 GMT -5 EpicGyllynn said:

Big Ape City - Populated by Kremlins. Nuff said.

Please don't bring the Russians into this.

In all seriousness, Wouldn't it make more sense to say a city named for apes is inhabited by them as well?

[EpicGyllynn]

Maybe the Evil Kongs from Barrel Blast(Or JB. I can't remember) live there, but, I'm certain that normal Kongs don't!

[shadowgoomba]

Twilight City (Mario vs Donkey Kong): There's just machinery, lasers, spike pits and metal beams everywhere.


Obviously that wasn't part of the residential district.



Big Ape City (Donkey Kong Land): See above


Big Ape City actually has very few obstacles like that...most of it is just enemies and the fact that you're jumping across skyscrapers.



Crescent Moon Village (Wario Land 4):200+ foot cliff in the middle of town, have to use the fire escape to even enter many of the buildings, electricity only on ground floor


Oh, and the Topaz Passage wasn't weird enough for you? You can see Wario going into the worlds through portals, and the Golden Diva created them iirc




Neon City (Wario Land The Shake Dimension): Live explosives in slot machines, really weird architecture, water, spikes.


Alternate dimension and whatnot.



Mushroom City (Mario spinoffs): Everyone drives like a lunatic at best, and if Moonview Highway is here, swerves all over the road to dodge speed boosts. If there's a speed limit, I'd love to see it.


Is it really that bad? I mean, you're in karts. They're bound to be comparatively slow to the cars.



Rogueport (Paper Mario the Thousand Year Door): It's basically the worst town in the series as far as street crime goes, if you decide not to count the hoardes of axe crazy ghosts in Hotel Horror as part of Crescent Moon Village)


Rogueport's got nothin' on Oakland or much of L.A.

[EpicGyllynn]

Yeah but I doubt they would allow Civilians to Drive on the Race track. My Theory: They chose a Specific Area to use as a Course(MoonView Highway in MKWii), and then hired Stunt Drivers to act as a moving Obstacle. Not to mention the Dangers of placing Boost Pads on a Public Street.

[Koopalmier]

A better possibility is that those cars use automatic driving. That explains why you can blast them with a bomb. In other words, nobody's in the cars.

Also, shadowgoomba:
I agree with every argument you provided, but one. "The Shake Dimension" is originally named "Yuretopia". So it's not really another dimension. I'd rather go with what EpicGyllynn said - the place was in a state of turmoil when Wario was there.

[shadowgoomba]

Wouldn't that just mean that Yuretopia would be so weird because it's now the Shake Dimension?

[Koopalmier]

I mean, the original (Japanese) name is Yuretopia. The name was changed to "The Shake Dimension" in American and European releases for unknow reasons. But it's not really an alternate dimension. The English name leads to believe it's a dimension inside the globe, while it actually IS the globe.

[shadowgoomba]

I don't see why it being called Yuretopia--which apparently translates to something like "Tremor Utopia"--means that it isn't in another dimension.