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Post by shadowgoomba on Jan 6, 2009 23:35:52 GMT -5
Welcome salt! I really don't have any ideas myself, but which kind are you referring to? The kind that grows larger when a drop hits it or the kind that just moves on its own?
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Post by thedude3445 on Jan 7, 2009 0:11:08 GMT -5
I think the entire world itself. I was about to post that it was just Mario's perception of it, but that's too far-fetched. I cannot think of any way it could work. I'd just cop out and say magic if anything.
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Post by shadowgoomba on Jan 7, 2009 9:32:45 GMT -5
Matter splatter is beyond me because it includes moving holes...a concept that's baffled me since Super Mario World. It seems like it's in a reality that's beyond human understanding...but I'd love to see your explanation. Kudos to Nintendo for creating such an ingenious thing, though. Creativity is what makes games the best in my opinion.
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Post by Toomai on Jan 7, 2009 12:01:22 GMT -5
I would say that Matter Splatter-type areas (as well as moving holes) are "out of phase" with the rest of the universe (a Star Trek idea). A sort of radiation would shift normal in-phase matter into out of phase matter, causing it to become intangible and/or invisible. Maybe the entire Matter Splatter Galaxy is bathed in this sort of radiation, and the small platform-like areas are spots where the radiation is blocked or cancelled by some secondary source.
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Post by shadowgoomba on Jan 7, 2009 14:27:25 GMT -5
And that secondary source is the liquid that drips on the platforms! It makes sense now!
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Post by kingkoopa on Jan 7, 2009 19:14:43 GMT -5
I understand what you are saying Toomai but one thing is unclear. Unless the platforms can sense life forms how can it start traveling (as in matter splatter mansion)
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Post by kingkoopa on Jan 14, 2009 18:09:36 GMT -5
Or maybe the boos set it off MUAHAHAHA
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Post by Your Buddy Bill on Sept 22, 2010 18:25:07 GMT -5
The link is now broken, as the page was deleted due to new userspace rules. I have asked the creator (who happens to be an op) to recreate it long enough for me to copy it, so the total awesomeness isnt lost forever.
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Post by SMBBQ on Sept 22, 2010 18:48:09 GMT -5
Well that's cool.
Anyway,I might as well contribite to the bump by mentioning that I originally considered Matter-Splatter to be a product of Hyperspace. (The space between Universes) By following that idea, we see that places like Matter-Splatter Mansion and Matter-Splatter Galaxy are not part of that reality, so to speak.
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Post by Koopalmier on Sept 23, 2010 5:02:30 GMT -5
It happens it is in hyperspace, according to my version.
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Post by Your Buddy Bill on Sept 23, 2010 11:54:33 GMT -5
All right, here it is. I'll make revisions for SMG2 sometime, as the original writer isn't going to.
"Foreward I wrote this around Galaxy's release for a topic on GameFAQs about the different Galaxies, and how they might work. I know it isn't exactly scientifically accurate, but I had fun with it. I wrote two of these, but the other wasn't as good.
Also note that originally, the compound evanadium was called something else, but I didn't come up with the name, so I changed it.
[edit] The Matter Splatter Galaxy The Matter Splatter Galaxy, notable for being the farther from the rest of the universe than any other known body, is an enigma. Within the strange membrane that makes up the outer region of the galaxy, matter appears to be possessed of the power of vanishing into the aether, then reappearing again as if nothing happened. This strange phenomenon appears to be the result of some event in the history of the galaxy that actually damaged the very fabric of the universe. Most of the matter in the galaxy then collapsed and fell into the gap between dimensions. Thus, the galaxy is believed to be the intersection of our universe with another “pocket” universe, which is the same size as the galaxy itself. The green and black “bubble” that surrounds the galaxy is the edge of the intersection, and all the matter in the galaxy exists in both universes at once.
The already strange galaxy is confused even more by the presence of some unknown substance of extreme complexity, termed evanadium, which actually spontaneously opens “holes” in reality, and allows small portions of the two universes to interact as one. This phenomenal material is responsible for the structures in the galaxy apparently blinking in and out of existence. It appears to be impossible to remove evanadium from the galaxy. evanadium appears to be affected only by matter in the “alternate” galaxy, suggesting that it is present only in that galaxy, however, since no way of entering the “alternate” galaxy is known, evanadium’s effects on the galaxy it is in may be entirely different from its observed effects. However, it was discovered several years ago that an extremely strong magnetic field could alter slightly the path of the evanadium.
evanadium appears to exist in two forms. One is a free-floating, very stable gas that seems to gather into large or small “bubbles” termed “reality spots.” Reality spots’ movement appears to follow a sort of set path unique to each one, but what determines this path is unknown. Occasionally, the path will change in response to stimulation, although the reality spot itself is never directly stimulated by anything other than the aforementioned charges. The reason for this is unknown.
The second type is an unstable “bouncy” liquid that tends to travel in uniform streams. Its effects are perhaps even more unusual than those of the reality spots, in that it does not have to directly touch matter that it has an effect on. Instead, liquid evanadium’s effects seem to spread out radially from any point where it contacts matter. The effects also seem to linger for a time after the liquid is no longer touching the affected matter. These last two phenomena are due to a reaction caused by the deviation in course resulting from contact with matter. This reaction releases a blast of an unstable third form of evanadium similar to the first, but which quickly decays when not being replenished by a continued supply from the liquid evanadium reacting with matter. This “blast” creates the new reality spot without the liquid evanadium seeming to touch most of the affected matter. As the size of the reality spot and thus the pressure needed to hold it in its characteristic shape increase from the continued reaction between the liquid evanadium and normal matter, that same reaction is slowed exponentially. Thus, the basic reaction always becomes self-inhibiting at some point. This creates the illusion of a definite maximum size for the reality spot, and preserves a portion of the liquid evanadium (for otherwise it would be destroyed completely upon first reaction.) The delay in decay of the hypothetical third form explains the ability of the reality spot to remain for a short time even after its source is gone. After this, the liquid remaining after the self-inhibiting reaction described above “bounces” off whatever matter it just reacted with at almost the same angle that it hit, traveling in a wide arc until it hits matter again. At some point, all the liquid will be destroyed in a reaction. The timing of this almost never fluctuates within one “stream” of liquid evanadium. At almost the same time that the stream is destroyed, a new stream begins leaking in from seemingly nowhere, probably through a crack in reality. The mechanism that causes this precise timing is not understood. It is accepted that impurities in the liquid evanadium and the characteristics of the matter causing the crucial reaction are the most likely cause for the uniqueness of each stream of liquid evanadium.
[edit] History of Matter Splatter The history of the Matter Splatter Galaxy is almost as much of an unknown as the galaxy itself. The architecture present in the galaxy suggests some form of civilization, but the galaxy would likely be unlivable in its current condition. This has led many that study the galaxy to the conclusion that Matter Splatter was formerly an average galaxy with some form of tool using life, and that some event in the recent past degraded it to its current condition, likely killing its inhabitants. It is notable that this event did not wreak complete destruction, as small relics remain in this universe’s version of the galaxy. The three main possibilities involving the destruction of the galaxy are that it was a natural event, that it was inadvertently caused by the inhabitants of the galaxy, and that it was the result of some sort of war.
If it was a natural event, it is theorized that some form of the substance “evanadium,” making up the key component of the modern Matter Splatter, existed in the galaxy naturally. Most likely, it existed in the center of a large mass, as sufficient pressure has been shown to cause evanadium to become dormant. Somehow, this mass was destroyed, probably with a great level of force, as evanadium tends to clump and would be unlikely to spread far on its own. Early theories suggested that the local star could have gone nova or supernova, but the architecture present in the modern galaxy would likely never have survived the event. At any rate, the evanadium would have exploded outward with a great force, causing the collapse of that region of space. The collapse would create a gravity pulse, drawing most of the evanadium back in. The stray evanadium not drawn in may be the cause of the similar phenomenon along the outer reaches of the Ghostly Galaxy. This theory is most widely accepted.
If the inhabitants of the galaxy caused it, then it is likely that some natural system on their planet was to blame Most theories involving higher technology have been dismissed entirely, due to the primitive structures found in the galaxy.
If it was the result of a war, it is likely that the inhabitants were in a relationship of some sort with a higher technological power, possibly god worship or exploitation of resources. It would have been a short war, if one side had the power to destroy the galaxy in such a way. This theory is not popular due to the lack of evidence of any civilization capable of such.
[edit] The Reverse-Occlusion Effect This is a strange effect whereby an object in the other reality that is not visible at all in this one can obscure an object in the other reality that is visible in this one. Somehow, it seems that matter in either reality can absorb light that bounces off of objects when under the effects of evanadium. The reason for this is unknown. This has no effect on any light that never leaves our dimension. This is most commonly seen in the main area of the galaxy, where metal bars currently in the other reality can cause sections of the stone flooring to become invisible. This is a poorly understood effect that may cause a revolution in understanding of the galaxy, similar to the one caused by the hanging phenomenon.
[edit] Hanging Phenomenon The hanging phenomenon was a problem posed with older theories of the function of evanadium. Older theories postulated that matter within the galaxy that seemed to cease to exist actually DID cease to exist, being destroyed by large quantities of antimatter within the galaxy. This was apparently contradicted by the presence of several objects hanging by ropes that would remain hanging even if the ropes were, according to the theories of the time, destroyed by the antimatter and so nonexistent. This created the logical paradox of an object resisting the force of gravity on its own. As the current theory seemed to explain the remainder of strange phenomena in the galaxy, all work regarding the hanging problem was an attempt to fit it into current theories, or to find some source of support or propulsion for this object. However, as more and more hypotheses were made and discounted, the body of opinion against the entire explanation of the galaxy grew and grew. When it was discovered that the antimatter in the galaxy was actually an illusion created by background radiation, the theory became unusable. To fit in this new discovery, energy would have to be being created and destroyed simultaneously, both are violations of the laws of physics, as they are understood. Thus, most of the scientific community rejected the old theory as no longer viable, and work began on a new theory. Using the more modern theory detailed above, the hanging problem is resolved by the continuation of the ropes upward into an alternate universe, where some everyday form of support can presumably be found."
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Post by SMBBQ on Sept 23, 2010 14:59:26 GMT -5
Alright, that took my idea, and actually explained it. So it would be a mix of Hyperspace and two realities colliding...
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Post by kingkoopa on Sept 23, 2010 21:29:25 GMT -5
Sounds like something out of Dr. Who
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Post by Your Buddy Bill on Sept 24, 2010 11:58:37 GMT -5
I will get around to fixing it up for SMG2 sometime.
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Post by SMBBQ on Sept 24, 2010 16:19:35 GMT -5
Take your time, we can wait.
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Post by kingkoopa on Sept 24, 2010 16:23:53 GMT -5
The Glitter Bulb berry or whatever it was called seems to be an evanadium fruit.
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Post by Your Buddy Bill on Sept 30, 2010 12:57:08 GMT -5
Yes, it must have a hard shell. When Yoshi eats it, his gastric juices break open the shell, causing Yoshi to temporarily radiate Evanadium. That, or it causes an Evanadium blast which rapidly decays.
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Post by Your Buddy Bill on Sept 30, 2010 13:09:13 GMT -5
Perhaps Evanadium actually causes the objects to 'shift' dimensions. Think of a wall, with a string on one side. Now think of Evanadium as a hole in the wall. The rope goes through, discontinuing in the alternate universe and continuing in this one. The entire border of an Evandium region may act this way. Dark Matter, or at least the sort Bowser uses that creates gaps in existence of platforms, and dissolves Mario on contact, may just mean that that alternate universe exists everywhere, and that Dark Matter is really just evanadium in the other universe, meaning that the corresponding Evanadium area in the universe where it is not creates a lethal barrier, as being half-in one world, half in the other without the gap-spanning ability of a portal would put too much of a strain on living forms, dissolving them. Plus theres the question of spirits, and what would happen to one's spirit moving into the other reality. Or maybe dark matter is effectively 'Anti Evanadium', causing things that pass through to be in neither universe at once and thus cease to exist.
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Post by Your Buddy Bill on Oct 5, 2010 12:28:25 GMT -5
SMG2 NOTE: Haunty Halls galaxy has gaseous evanadium that causes those infinite rotating carpets to appear (the total pattern seems to indicate an endless circle) and Mattermouths (those giant dry bones heads) actually EAT the gaseous evanadium, which has a source that attempts to re-balance the evanadium amounts, thus making it appear as if Mattermouths eat away things which then 'regenerate'. It also explains how a portion of moving carpet that just got 'eaten' can 'move out from under' the 'hole' behind the mattermouths.
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Post by SMBBQ on Oct 5, 2010 15:53:55 GMT -5
So, is Gaseous Evanadium related in any way to the "Dark Matter" Bowser uses? You might've mentioned this already, but I'm not the best at Physics, so bear with me.
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