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Post by shadowgoomba on Oct 21, 2007 17:04:32 GMT -5
A dictator wouldn't allow his conquered people to have any power. He would either kill or enslave them. They wouldn't simply move from general of one army to general of another.
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Post by Toomai on Oct 21, 2007 18:38:07 GMT -5
Please don't post single words, MBY.
I think the different groups have their own leaders, and Bowser dictates those leaders. Maybe Bowser pretends that he's being a "business partner" with the high guys or something, there does seem to be some "if you do this, you get this" going on. Mafia style? It may be possible that the lowest levels don't really know that Bowser is controlling them.
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Post by Meta Black Yoshi on Oct 21, 2007 19:31:03 GMT -5
Ya, like in SM64, they probably helped Bowser and in return Bowser let them use the Power Stars.
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Post by shadowgoomba on Oct 21, 2007 19:48:15 GMT -5
Don't know about that...why would they want them? But Toomai's right. Besides Lava Pirahna even said that if it guarded the Star Spirit, Bowser gave it the volcano.
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Post by Meta Black Yoshi on Oct 22, 2007 14:35:44 GMT -5
The power stars make you powerful. What self-respecting bad guy wouldn't want power. I meen besides maybe wiggler.
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Post by Toomai on Oct 22, 2007 17:35:42 GMT -5
I don't think that specific Wiggler was a bad guy, but yeah, everyone wants power. Getting it from Bowser (or keeping it for him) is probably an honour. (Until the good guys appear.)
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Post by shadowgoomba on Oct 26, 2007 15:55:14 GMT -5
Bowser didn't give everyone the Stars, though. Eyerok is ancient, and looks like he has had the star for a long time.
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Post by Meta Black Yoshi on Nov 12, 2007 14:24:58 GMT -5
Yea, you might think that alot them just found the stars or something but actualy I think I remember it saying something about the castle having all of it's stars until they were recently stolen by Bowser. Bowser gave some stars to his generals and hid the rest. It's possible that some stars were found accidentaly by some creatures that just happened to be wandering around in the areas were Bowser hid them. Or the stars just somehow found their way to them or maybe Bowser intentionaly hid them in places were he knew strang creatures would find them. So Bowser could have given Eyerok the star either by accident or on purpose, but I don't believe eyerok had the star before the game unless Bowser somehow went back in time to give it the star, which I guess is possible. I still think it's more likely that Bowser or one of his minions went down into the pyramid and made sure the star got to eyerok who probably didn't even have the power to move until given the star.
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Post by shadowgoomba on Nov 12, 2007 16:47:24 GMT -5
Everything about Eyerok just screams ancient god though. I'll try to find an exact quote, but I believe he said something about "sleeping for a long time." This wouldn't be true if Bowser woke him up or gave him life. Maybe it's an elaborate scheme and Eyerok just believes he/the star is ancient.
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Post by Toomai on Nov 12, 2007 19:00:06 GMT -5
If time moved as we'd expect within the picture worlds, then Mario would never be able to "replay" Stars.
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Post by Meta Black Yoshi on Nov 12, 2007 19:24:34 GMT -5
Bowser could have given eyerok the star without waking it up. Like a partial wake up. Not really awake but back from the dead. Still sleeping.
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Post by Toomai on Nov 12, 2007 21:31:16 GMT -5
That doesn't make too much sense to me. Bowser would want to make sure they would protect the Star and not treat it like some cursed item.
Anyway, back on topic (Thwomps, Whomps, etc). The new design for the Tox Boxes in Galaxy is very interesting. Before, they looked like metal boxes with painted faces, but now they're like carved stone or hollowed-out Thwomps. And their shell is a lot thinner (less crushing power?). While the old Tox Boxes were obviously mechanical, the new ones seem like they could be part of the Thwomp family. Thoughts?
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Post by shadowgoomba on Nov 13, 2007 11:03:19 GMT -5
Before we move on, I'd just like to say I don't think we can consider replaying stars canon. To accept them is also to accept the menu screen, because Mario would have no other way to select a star to go to. The Toy Boxes probably look different as an attempt to make them look space-y.
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Post by knux on Feb 9, 2008 13:42:10 GMT -5
whats the story about Marty? (the green whomp on bowesers track of mario kart 64)
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Post by shadowgoomba on Feb 9, 2008 15:35:18 GMT -5
I'm sure you mean Thwomp...but I didn't know it was named Marty. He's just an ultra-powerful Thwomp Bowser locked up because he was unstable.
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Post by Toomai on Feb 10, 2008 12:41:12 GMT -5
To my knowledge, "Marty" is completely unofficial (it's a fan name). And since he only exists in a game without story, dialogue, or anything of the sort, we know pretty much nothing about him.
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Post by shadowgoomba on Feb 10, 2008 12:50:50 GMT -5
But we do know that he's locked up and when released, he goes on a rampage. And you're right; it's a fan name. I searched on the Mario Wiki and got squat.
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Post by knux on Feb 10, 2008 14:43:35 GMT -5
omg, this fourm is active?
hmm, well i did see a youtube video of 'Marty' being realesed
but i dont know if it was real
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Post by shadowgoomba on Feb 10, 2008 14:47:44 GMT -5
It's real. I did it once. And this forum is active, but we respond more than making new posts.
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Post by knux on Feb 10, 2008 14:50:35 GMT -5
I can see that, well i hope to see Meta Black Yoshi here more often, BTW do you know who here made the Mariology Myspace Group?
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