How seriously should we take certain games?

[L.D.]

but that means TTYD wasn't a play

[Kamikaze Koopa]

How so?

[L.D.]

well since mangas of rpg's of fight seens like you would see in a cartoon,so no crowd

[PDoogan]

Do you have any scans of the manga comics? I've never seen the PM2 volume.
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Anyway I kinda agree on the whole no audience thing. (Except for fights like the first fight with Mangus Von Grapple where all the punies and X-nauts are watching and all the battles in the Glitz Pit.) But other than that, the fights would be played out more like a cartoon. Because lets face it, your enemy isn't going to just stand there while decide what you are going to do next.

[L.D.]

only the cover, which is at TMK

[Hammer Mario]

PM2 manga?

[Hammer Mario]

And PM2 could be a play, the battles are a good example because when you fight bad the audience gets mad and throws things at you or leaves, but when you fight good they cheer. Most of the stroy seems like a play too like most of the 1st chapter

[PDoogan]

If PM2 was a play, wouldn't the audience always be there? Even when you weren't in a battle?
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Here's the link to the manga:
www.themushroomkingdom.net/mania/manga.shtml

[Yoshi Master]

When they cheer and throw stuff at you it hardly affects the outcome.

[Toomai]

Unless they throw you a Super Shroom that saves your life, or throw you a rock when you're in Peril (and you're too inattentive to press X).

[Hammer Mario]

pdoogan said:

If PM2 was a play, wouldn't the audience always be there? Even when you weren't in a battle?
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Here's the link to the manga:
www.themushroomkingdom.net/mania/manga.shtml

We are the audience and they're wouldn't be a audiece in battles if it wasn't a play. Did the first Paper Mario have an audience?

[Yoshi Master]

Did the first Paper Mario have an audience?

Nope.

[PDoogan]

If we were the audience, wouldn't that mean every game ever made was a play, considering the fact that we're seeing it?

[Claws]

Here's my stance: PMTTYD's events happened like any normal Mario game's would, only at times there were people watching Mario's battles that affected the outcome of the battles. Then, when all was said and done, the whole adventure was made into a play. The video game, unlike other Mario games that are based directly on the actual events, is based on the play. Therefore, some of the things shown didn't happen exactly as they were shown--at times, the play's audience played the part of the real-life audience that was sometimes present. This was so the play would be as accurate as possible. What else could have been skewed? Until conflicting evidence surfaces, we are forced to assume that nothing else was changed.

[Toomai]

It just doesn't make sense how the "playmakers" could get live enemies to appear on stage without killing everything in sight.

[Claws]

They didn't. Everyone in the play was played by an actor. Or am I missing something?

[Yoshi Master]

Yeah they're all actors.

[Hammer Mario]

claws said:

They didn't. Everyone in the play was played by an actor. Or am I missing something?

Actors?, I don't think everyone meant it was an actual play, it just has some elements from a play and how most of the story is told

[PDoogan]

If you remember the end of the game, Goombella E-mails Mario to tell him how everyone is doing. There is a scene the shows Flurrie and Doopliss (as Mario) acting on a stage "fighting somew boos. This play seems to have a slight difference from it then the actual game play. Perhaps this is the real play and what we see throughout the game is the real adventure.
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Another thought: Paper Mario 2 has allot of side quests and rather unimportant parts that, if put in a play, would make it rather boring. I don't think anyone would want to sit through a play that is, at the very minimum 12 hours long. (this is an estimate) Something with so much detail seem allot more like the real thing than a play.

[Yoshi Master]

It could have been broken up into days.