How seriously should we take certain games?

[Kamikaze Koopa]

I'm not saying we should automatically dismiss it, I'm just saying that since it's a movie we can't be sure what's fabricated and what's not. So it might not be usable at all.

[Claws]

But didn't we decide we were still going to use Paper Mario even though its events were revealed to us through a play? How is this any different?

[PDoogan]

If you want to get technical, you could say none of the game could be taken seriously because they're just that: a game. The true adventure would seem more like a movie i.e.: people come and go (more), Mario has more and audible dialogue, in fact everyone would have more dialog. Who goes around with other people in complete silence like that in real life? I doubt there would be as many side missions as well. Who has time to play mini games when busy saving the world from some evil overlord or...something. And one more thing, this has always bothered me about RPG's: who the heak takes turns in a battle? Your enemy is not going to wait an infinite amount of time until you make a decision about you next move. All Mario RPG battles should be played out more like a boss battle. You enemy won't die in one hit, but he won't wait for you to attack either. But I digress...this is just from a technical standpoint. As for now, the games are the best reference we have.

[philzero]

would this make the bean bean continent a false land mass or did they use the bean bean continent to make the movie???

[PDoogan]

No, it's all real, just a video games interpretation of it.

[Kamikaze Koopa]

Well, it can't all be false, because we know that at least the Yoshi Theatre exists.

[Yoshi Master]

You can't possibly make an entire game flase.

Except Mario is missing that can just die alone.

[PDoogan]

It's not the games storyline that is false it's the whole game play factor. If the game played out EXACTLY like how it happened, there would be nothing for you to do but watch. Then again I'm being really technical here. The games are as close as we can get to the real thing, so I guess we don't have a choise but to take them seriously...except Mario Is Missing and all those other educational games. Whoever thought up those should be drug out into the street and shot...or better yet, made to play those horrible games themselves

[Kamikaze Koopa]

Whoa, whoa, whoa! You guys can't just accept all the other games into the canon and ignore some just because they sucked. If you guys want to incorporate the sports and party games into the universe then you have to do the edutainment and spin-off games too. That means if you want Mario Golf or Tennis, then you've gotta have Mario Teaches Typing, as well.

Don't blame me, though. It's your guy's rule.

[Yoshi Master]

Yeah but none of us has really played it.

[Claws]

I have no problem with that, Kamikaze. I say we accept everything.

[Kamikaze Koopa]

*snaps fingers* Crap!

[PDoogan]

admin said:

Whoa, whoa, whoa! You guys can't just accept all the other games into the canon and ignore some just because they sucked. If you guys want to incorporate the sports and party games into the universe then you have to do the edutainment and spin-off games too. That means if you want Mario Golf or Tennis, then you've gotta have Mario Teaches Typing, as well.

Don't blame me, though. It's your guy's rule.

It's not the fact that the games them self are incredibly bad. They have not story line. Heck, some of them don't even have an ending. It's obvious that all they did was make an education game and slap a bunch of random Mario character in it so kids would want it. Even the sports spin-offs have a story line even if it's minimal i.e: Mario and his friends play a sport and someone wins. The fact that those "other games" suck is just a side note.

[Claws]

I think that it's our job to kind of create storylines for the edutainment games that don't have storylines. For example, Mario's Early Years: Fun with Numbers features six or seven islands in the middle of the ocean. Mario and friends appear on a raft in front of the islands. Therefore, the storyline for the game could go something like this: Mario and friends sail on a raft to some mysterious islands where their adventures reveal a lot of useful information about numbers.

I don't see why including things is such a hassle.

[philzero]

mario pinball was weird and mario sports games are the only sport games ill play because they have a sort of cartoonyness that find fun in a game thats why i love mario because of the wackyness of the mario jenre i think is why we all like the mario games as well as movies

[L.D.]

I think you should acept PM,PM: TTYD,YI,YS

PM and PMTTYD: nowhere does it mention it's a play or whatever,nintendo was probably playing with the graphics,in TTYD it says the paper abilitys are a curse,cureses can do strange things,also the paper revealing things is probably never mentioned in the future generation

YI and YS: yoshi's island is the first game in chronologic order,just because the graphics are crayoned doesn't mean you can leave this game out and it's not a story book,YS and YTT are story books but their stories say that yoshi's island was cursed into a story book.

just because the graphics are story book like doesn't mean it can't be cannon,only MaLSS was the only mario game where it might have been stretched.

SSBM is like the final fight for the all stars so it's like the last thing in the time line and it has refrences in other games,MK: DD should be taken serious,not like the adventures,just slightly serieous because of how the tracks are from alot of games,I can place the spin-offs in the time line because they would apear later one in the time line when bowser would most likely start relising that he won't beat mario and CO. so he parties/golfs/races/ect. to show he can do more then kiddnap peach

*pant* *pant*

[Kamikaze Koopa]

Dude, PMTTYD's battles take place on a stage. I think that's enough to assume it's only a play. Not only that, the first Paper Mario actually says that it's a story at the beginning. As for Yoshi's Island and Yoshi's Story, the latter may have a good reason for being in sotrybook format, but Yoshi's Island says nothing about being cursed into being a storybook.

[L.D.]

never said yoshi's island was a story but you are right on paper mario,someone said that the rpg battle thingy never happens in the characters points of view

[Yoshi Master]

That's what I don't like about RPG's, they're so unrealistic in the way that you can carry hundreds of things, you take turns fighting, and you can hold hundreds of coins/ treasure.

[philzero]

i love rpgs and there are two types of rpgs TM theres turn based (taking turns) and real time (where you control the character and thers no taking turns) turn based rpgs are less complex than turn based sorry rpgs are favorite type game.