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Post by Kamikaze Koopa on Jul 11, 2005 18:27:28 GMT -5
The title says it all, folks. Specifically the Paper Mario games and the Yoshi's Island games (SMW2, Yoshi's Story, ect.).
I honestly don't think that we should take them literally, basically because they're all made out of frickin' cardboard. I've always viewed those games as legends of certain Mario adventures that have been stretched out to be tall tales. In Paper Mario they even say at the beginning of the game that it's story, and all of Yoshi's Island is shown in pop-up book format. This would explain away the idea of goombas having their own town, despite the fact that they lack the opposable thumbs to build it (or anything else for that matter), as well as the whole stork thing in SMW2.
Anyway, those are just my feelings on the matter. After all, Mario having the ability to fold himself into a paper airplane seems pretty...well, you know where I'm going with this.
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Post by Yoshi Master on Jul 11, 2005 19:06:47 GMT -5
Take the game seriously, just pretend the levels and things are made out of real stuff. Der. Nothing would change.
Paper Mario makes perfect sense. I can't think of anything that would change the game if everything was 3D.
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Post by Kamikaze Koopa on Jul 11, 2005 19:22:01 GMT -5
I don't see how you could just ignore the fact that everything is made out of paper, specifically since parts of the storyline in TTYD depend on the fact that it's paper.
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Post by Yoshi Master on Jul 11, 2005 22:52:10 GMT -5
Those parts can be replaced or even taken out of. It all can be replaced. Plus lets not forget a little gate can be hopped over. You can walk around blocks in the road. And not everything was made out of paper.
And the curse that turns you into an airplane, how about thats what it acually does! Then you just turn back to 3D.
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Post by Kamikaze Koopa on Jul 11, 2005 22:57:26 GMT -5
I suppose.
Well then, it's back to the drawing board for figuring out how Goombas can hold things.
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Post by Yoshi Master on Jul 12, 2005 16:06:26 GMT -5
Didn't we say they hold things with their mouths?
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Post by Kamikaze Koopa on Jul 12, 2005 19:31:05 GMT -5
Did we? I thought we just kind of gave up after a while.
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Post by Claws on Jul 12, 2005 22:23:18 GMT -5
Someone'll have to go back and check. About Paper Mario--yes, it's a play performed with cardboard cutouts, but I think it's safe for us to conclude the playwright (Herringway) followed the actual events closely, as he lived some of the events.
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Post by Kamikaze Koopa on Jul 12, 2005 23:09:28 GMT -5
Do they actually say that those stories were written by Herringway?
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Post by Yoshi Master on Jul 12, 2005 23:10:32 GMT -5
Paper Mario is in no way anything exept a real event done by extremly creative and funny people. Except the fact that Japanese are creative and you can't possibly take the 2D seriously.
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Post by Claws on Jul 13, 2005 18:47:27 GMT -5
Well, I know Herringway said he was going to write a book or something called "Paper Mario." I'm assuming the play is based on his book.
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Post by Kamikaze Koopa on Jul 13, 2005 21:14:31 GMT -5
Ahhh, interesting. So, do you think it's safe to assume that the Paper Mario games are actually Herringway's creations? And if so, did he base them on Mario's actual experiances, or are they merely works of fiction?
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Post by Claws on Jul 14, 2005 12:46:13 GMT -5
I don't think he made the stuff up. See, the thing is, we can say he made the stuff up, but then any game would be open to similar questioning. Take Super Mario World. We could say that since the format is video game, the developers stretched things or left events out. Although this situation is a little different, I still don't think we have the right to question Paper Mario's authenticity.
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Post by Kamikaze Koopa on Jul 14, 2005 12:49:41 GMT -5
Good point. I would say the only differnce here is that we have an in-game reference that hints at the possibility that the game may have been fabricated (at least to an extent).
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Post by Claws on Jul 14, 2005 13:26:22 GMT -5
That's true. Still, though, I don't think we can honestly question a game when it doesn't really contradict any other game.
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Post by Kamikaze Koopa on Jul 14, 2005 13:39:46 GMT -5
That's true. Well in that case, I retract my previous statement.
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Post by Yoshi Master on Jul 16, 2005 14:36:46 GMT -5
And then Paper Mario, Yoshi's Story, and Yoshi's island all actually happened and we all went to bed.
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Post by Kamikaze Koopa on Jul 21, 2005 20:11:18 GMT -5
lol But the whole game itself kind of contradicts the other games. In any case, I'll admit that the games actually happened, but I'm not gonna take them literally. I see those games as distorted re-tellings of actual Mario adventures through the writings of Herringway.
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Post by Yoshi Master on Jul 24, 2005 18:16:19 GMT -5
[ gave up and commited suicide ]
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Post by Toomai on Aug 25, 2005 15:54:57 GMT -5
Crap.
[uses health magic on YoshiMastar]
Anyway, no matter what anyone else thinks, I believe that those games happened they way they are played.
Yoshi's Island and Yoshi's Story: Well, in Yoshi's Story, the island was turned into a book, so it'd make sense if the scenery was made of stuff like cardboard and newspaper.
Paper Mario: I say that Bowser used the power of the Star Rod to paperfy the Mushroom Kingdom. (Problem is it kind of saved Mario from being a pancake when he blasted him out of the sky)
Paper Mario TTYD: It's true that Mario gets "cursed" (lol) with his paper abilities, so I agree that he could just have been 3D to start with and used the power of the "curses" (lol) to be like paper for a little while.
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