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Post by cheat-master30 on Aug 6, 2010 10:17:34 GMT -5
He looks awfully like Bogmire, doesn't he?  Is this some kind of demonic species like the Boos? Maybe it's another ghost species affiliated with both Bowser and King Boo? |
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Post by EpicGyllynn on Aug 6, 2010 10:37:45 GMT -5
That's an interesting Observation, but I always though Bouldergeist was a Demonic Entity that possesed Boulders... Well, I suppose a Member of Boggmires Race could have taken controll of them, Its a possibilty!
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Post by Koopalmier on Aug 6, 2010 10:46:35 GMT -5
Bogmire is a poltergeist made by ghosts' fear and despair. Bouldergeist is - ironically - not a poltergeist but a ghost or deamon of some sort possessing a bunch of boulders. But it's a creation of Bowser's army anyway.
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Post by EpicGyllynn on Aug 6, 2010 15:33:34 GMT -5
Yeah, Koopalmier DOES bring up a Good Point.
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Post by Le Mario Bro on Aug 6, 2010 16:18:10 GMT -5
Still, that's a good comparison. I'd have never thought they looked similar.
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Post by cheat-master30 on Aug 6, 2010 19:04:52 GMT -5
To be fair, there's no evidence any Mario Galaxy bosses are creations of Bowser. Ever in the game. And being the same kind of species would explain why it supposedly captured Luigi in star 3 of the Ghostly Galaxy.
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Post by EpicGyllynn on Aug 6, 2010 19:27:52 GMT -5
I think it may be the same Species, a being made out of Ghost' Fear and Despair.
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Post by Koopalmier on Aug 6, 2010 19:28:04 GMT -5
What about Bowser Jr.'s creature plant in SMG ?
And it captures Luigi because... well, it is a monster. Monsters attack humans. This monster is a ghost(-ish thing). Luigi suffers from phasmophobia. Luigi also suffers from a lack of luck. Guess what happens.
It is quite obvious Bouldergeist's design was based on Bogmire's but it's less easy to make an in-universe connection between them. And they have different abilities too.
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Post by cheat-master30 on Aug 6, 2010 19:35:38 GMT -5
Huh? Bowser Jr's never actually made a non mechanical boss enemy. King Kaliente returned after he was already beaten before. Gobblegut might be a pet. Everything else is either him and his airship or a robot controlled by him. Nothing else in those Bowser Jr levels, unless I'm missing something.
True. Out of universe, that's probably because you don't have the Poltergeist in Super Mario Galaxy, in universe it might be a sub species thing. Maybe they're of related species in the way some real life species are. Same evolutionary ancestor maybe?
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Post by EpicGyllynn on Aug 6, 2010 19:40:44 GMT -5
I'd say that there is some Connection between the Two. Also, Cheat-Master, the sign for Italics is ---, just add a Slash befor the second "i" then place what you want Italized between those two, and it works Fine  |
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Post by Koopalmier on Aug 6, 2010 19:44:40 GMT -5
There aren't really "evolutionnary ancestors" when it comes to poltergeists. They are made by other people's powers or feelings, sometimes intentionally, sometimes not. They take different forms too.
And the level is named "Bowser Jr.'s Creature Plant" (or simply "Creature planet" in my version), it means what it means. That may mean that SMG-only ennemies, such as King Kaliente, Octoombas, Dino Piranha... are creations of Bowser's army. But it's unknow if the plant is there in SMG2, so Gobblegut and Squizzard may be "natural" beings, while remaining Octoombas and Prince Pikante may be what Mario didn't destroyed in the first SMG (if SMG and SMG2 are both in the same continuity, that said).
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Post by EpicGyllynn on Aug 6, 2010 20:02:47 GMT -5
Koopalmier is right about the Plant, but I think Octoomba may just be a Mutation of Goombas(Breeding with Octorocks. Lol).
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Post by SMBBQ on Aug 6, 2010 20:56:04 GMT -5
There aren't really "evolutionnary ancestors" when it comes to poltergeists. They are made by other people's powers or feelings, sometimes intentionally, sometimes not. They take different forms too. And the level is named "Bowser Jr.'s Creature Plant" (or simply "Creature planet" in my version), it means what it means. That may mean that SMG-only ennemies, such as King Kaliente, Octoombas, Dino Piranha... are creations of Bowser's army. But it's unknow if the plant is there in SMG2, so Gobblegut and Squizzard may be "natural" beings, while remaining Octoombas and Prince Pikante may be what Mario didn't destroyed in the first SMG (if SMG and SMG2 are both in the same continuity, that said). Good point, but which level is the Creature Plant? I've only played the English version. |
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Post by cheat-master30 on Aug 6, 2010 21:11:50 GMT -5
Bowser Jr's Lava Reactor.
Personally though, keep in mind that only suggests one set of enemies is 'artificial'. I'd say the rest of the monsters in the game probably existed before Bowser went to outer space.
And is Koopalmier Japanese?
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Post by Koopalmier on Aug 6, 2010 21:35:15 GMT -5
I'm not gonna tell you, nuh-uh !
... I'm not gonna tell you that I'm French, yeah. It'd be pretty cool if I was Japanese, right ?
If Bouldergeist is like Bogmire, then he's most likely made by the fear and despair of the ghosts haunting the galaxy's main planet (the mansion thing). But he's also said to be the ghosts' chief...
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Post by EpicGyllynn on Aug 8, 2010 17:27:21 GMT -5
Bouldergeist is a really Interesting Character, I hope to see im in Future Games as he makes a better returning Character than, say, Petey Pirhana. Don't get me wrong, I love Petey, but he slowly lost his coolness after Power Tennis...
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Post by cheat-master30 on Aug 8, 2010 18:15:38 GMT -5
^That's a good point, although being cooler than Petey is hardly difficult. And I personally thought Kingfin was better than even Bouldergeist coolness wise, although it should be extremely easy to see why Nintendo would reuse Petey more than either (presumably, neither are easy to move to new settings).
Although on a random point, I think Topmaniac could return as the ball for a Mario Strikers game. I mean, it's pretty much got the appearance and personality of one, and hey, you could send it into the electric fences for the heck of it.
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Post by EpicGyllynn on Aug 8, 2010 18:19:01 GMT -5
That's a cool Idea, Cheat-Master! I never would have thought of that!
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Post by kingkoopa on Aug 8, 2010 18:35:42 GMT -5
Petey dominates in whatever Mario game he is in, he just hasn't been in one in the longest time
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Post by Your Buddy Bill on Sept 22, 2010 12:33:22 GMT -5
Agreed, though in MKDD it was hard to see over his massive head. I think the Bouldergeist was the chief of the rare Bomb-boo species, which may or may not be undead Bob-ombs. The fear of the toads, inhabitants, and possibly Weegee caused him to grow in power. He seemes to have connected to his environment. Perhaps he gained that power after an arena match in a gladitorial Bomb-boo/ghost society, then fusing to the arena to which he was attatched. As for SMG2, after his fight with Mario he realized that, by getting his rocks blasted away, he COULD still travel, though weak and vulnerable. But bummer, he just sets up when along comes that red-hatted bum who kicked him out the first time! I actually feel sorry for the poor guy.
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