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Post by kingkoopa on Jul 29, 2010 20:38:19 GMT -5
Well where else would WarioWare be if it wasn'[t on ME
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Post by Koopalmier on Jul 30, 2010 4:51:44 GMT -5
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Post by PDoogan on Jul 30, 2010 9:56:36 GMT -5
We have a lack of proof when it comes to Warp Pipes being found on Earth. Also, as powerful as Warp Pipes are, I doubt they are powerful enough to be connected with light-years between the entry and the exit. Too much matter between both opening. Maybe kilometers, maybe dozens of kilometers, but surely not billions and billions of light-years. I don't think distance is the issue. The pipe is connecting between dimensions, not space. Also, I never played the GB version of Donkey Kong. Is it really a remake, or could it be considered a sequel? (in which case the locations could be different) |
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Post by Koopalmier on Jul 30, 2010 10:29:59 GMT -5
Well, it takes back the story where it started, it continues it a lot and it erases the game "Donkey Kong Jr."'s story.
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Post by kingkoopa on Jul 30, 2010 15:42:39 GMT -5
How exactly do you think they could be on Earth if you just said that it was almost impossible for there to be easy dimension travel from ME to Earth |
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Post by EpicGyllynn on Jul 30, 2010 16:31:00 GMT -5
Every game that involves Wario took place on ME! No questions Asked!
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Post by Meta Black Yoshi on Jul 30, 2010 16:37:20 GMT -5
Wait, what about that map of Earth? How did he get that? Did he visit earth and bring it back as a souvenir? BTW, I haven't actually played the game, I'm just going off of what's in the picture.
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Post by EpicGyllynn on Jul 30, 2010 16:48:57 GMT -5
Wario may have gotten it during one of his Adventures, I mean he has gone to other Dimensions before. It could have been a souvenir, but Diamond City is in the Mushroom World, where at is a good question though, but I doubt it's in the Mushroom Kingdom.
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Post by cheat-master30 on Jul 30, 2010 17:06:11 GMT -5
Meh, pictures of the Earth are common when game developers need a picture of an Earth like planet and can't be bothered to draw one. Maybe it's like how people use spinning globes as clip art. But hey, I'd like to point out there are two possible things showing WarioWare as from Earth:
Wario Land references (vampire Wario, Crescent Moon Village theme, music box in Wario's House, picture of Golden Pyramid, Mona as gone with Wario on one of his adventures), and the Wario Land series seems to be in Mushroom World, and the first game even throws in Mario enemies, objects and Mario among other things.
It's a Mario Kart Arcade GP race track.
The bike reappears in Mario Kart, and arguably the house reappears in Wario Land Shake It.
And Wario World gets a Mushroom World reference in DDR Mario Mix.
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Post by EpicGyllynn on Jul 30, 2010 17:09:26 GMT -5
Nice points Cheat-Master! I knew why they actually used the Earth Map(The reason you Stated), I was just trying to come up with an Explanation. But I totally Agree!
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Post by Koopalmier on Jul 30, 2010 17:16:43 GMT -5
But it's not only the map that says it is on Earth. There's also the money currency (dollars) and the fact Diamond City is your typical American town.
Also, I think there are two different Warios - after all the Wario Land Wario doesn't have serious flatulence problems and seems to be kind of poor, and Waluigi is said to be his only friend. Maybe that Wario Land 4 is canon in both the Wario Land Wario series and the Wario Ware Wario series ?
Oh, and we don't have any proof Earth and the MW are in different dimensions. Things would rather leave to believe they are in the same world - the Mario series is in the same dimension as the Kirby series, Earth is in the Kirby series.
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Post by EpicGyllynn on Jul 30, 2010 17:21:26 GMT -5
I still think they are the same Warios, and they both occur in the Mushroom Earth!
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Post by Koopalmier on Jul 30, 2010 17:24:49 GMT -5
The sports games being canon is arguable, the arcade MK games being canon is even more arguable. First.. well, you get Pac-Man and Tamagochies. But for some reasons people believe in the "dimensional rip" theory when this isn't even proven in real life. There are "doors" to other worlds but they can't be used normally to travel (the globe leading to the Shake Dimension, or the music box). The only "real" dimensional gates we've seen were in SPM but their number was very limited.
See upper text. The canon of the Mario sports spin-offes is quite debatable.
Wario World is presumaly on the MW (or, should I say, on the planet created at the end of Wario Land 1) + DDR: Mario Mix's story is... simply killing the series if it is canon. Why ? Because in the end, everyone is happy and they always lived happily ever after.
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Post by cheat-master30 on Jul 30, 2010 17:26:46 GMT -5
But it's not only the map that says it is on Earth. There's also the money currency (dollars) and the fact Diamond City is your typical American town. Also, I think there are two different Warios - after all the Wario Land Wario doesn't have serious flatulence problems and seems to be kind of poor, and Waluigi is said to be his only friend. Maybe that Wario Land 4 is canon in both the Wario Land Wario series and the Wario Ware Wario series ? Oh, and we don't have any proof Earth and the MW are in different dimensions. Things would rather leave to believe they are in the same world - the Mario series is in the same dimension as the Kirby series, Earth is in the Kirby series. I disagree there are two different Warios. Wario World had the farting, burping, rude Wario and the Wario Land Castle and such. Indeed, so do the recent modern Wario Land games. What the issue with that series is can be summed up as thus: WarioWare changed his personality from his original one, and Nintendo and such seem to be trying to shoehorn that into his other games. I think GoodFeel refused to have that stuff, but you can tell the motivation by Miyamoto's New Super Mario Bros Wii quote (if we had Wario, we'd have to make him fart). There was maybe once an intention to have two different alternate universe versions of him, but Nintendo pretty much blew it all to hell and made all versions have about the same personality now. Personally, if I ever get the chance to work with Nintendo, the first thing I'll do is make my idea where Diamond City does get attacked by Mario series villains, just to solve the issue once and for all. You'd have some RPG villain go and basically blitz the town for something within, and watch it basically collapse because they've never had to deal with true... evil/villains. |
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Post by EpicGyllynn on Jul 30, 2010 17:28:01 GMT -5
Though I don't believe that DDR:MM or MKGP are Canon, but I still stand by my Theory!
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Post by Koopalmier on Jul 30, 2010 17:35:06 GMT -5
The WarioWare series clearly refers to the Nintendo series as being a fictional media in that world. The only time video game characters were referred in the Mario series was in PMTTYD but it was more of a fourth wall joke than anything else (the Toad even says "Now that I finished Paper Mario 2, I wonder when they will release Paper Luigi...). While in WarioWare, 9-Volt appears in every game and it's a settled fact that in that world Nintendo characters are fictional (and Wario (the character) may have been based on Wario (the "real life" person)). Until more confirmation, we should consider the Wario Land universe and the Wario Ware universe as being separate.
But now that I think about it, if we consider that Nintendo previously used Earth's map and solar system instead of MW's as a placeholder, then the Rainbow Road stage in MKWii can be considered canon and, ignoring characters that are unlockable (Rosalina) or not seen in cutscenes (Baby Mario in Mario Tennis) then most Mario sports games can be considered canon (but the GB/GBA RPGs, and Mario Golf 64 as Baby Mario and SMW2's Yoshi appear - but Luigi still talks about golf matches in Paper Mario so Mario Golf: TT could have happened instead). As for the "throwing explosives at themselves" thing, they're all insane anyway.
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Post by EpicGyllynn on Jul 30, 2010 17:44:47 GMT -5
There is an EXTREME Lack of Evidence that they are two different Characters!
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Post by Koopalmier on Jul 30, 2010 18:16:34 GMT -5
OK.
WL Wario is apparently jobless and a bit poor but considers himself as a treasure hunter.
WW Wario is quite rich, has "friends", owns a video game company and is even more insane that WL Wario.
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Post by EpicGyllynn on Jul 30, 2010 18:25:25 GMT -5
WarioWare Games Chronologically happen after Wario Land Games! In his last Wario Land Adventure, Wario uses his Treasures to start a Micro-Game Company, in which he Manufactures and Sells Micro-Games!
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Post by Koopalmier on Jul 30, 2010 18:27:56 GMT -5
Actually he used his treasures to transform his garage in a throne room. No, really.
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