Discussion on the Undead in Mario.

[thtryhsrt]

Let'd dicuss things such as how the Undead are created and their traits.

[Meta Black Yoshi]

Magic, animated by spirit of the creature, or by some other spirit or a boo. A lot of the walking skeletons will re-form after being broken apart. But explosions seem to take them out permanently.

[thedude3445]

Yeah, Meta pretty much said it. It's just like the undead in Resident Evil.... Except without the viruses, and Albert Wesker and all that.... but...nevermind. =P

[Toomai]

The question is how Dry Bones are immune to fire in some games yet 3x weak to fire (and explosions) in others.

[thedude3445]

Maybe the intensity of the fires in Bowser's Castles are low so that they don't melt everything.

[shadowgoomba]

That's not the problem. In platformers, fireballs do squat to Dry Bones. In RPGs they do triple dameage.

[thedude3445]

Oh yeah, Mario's fireballs.

Hmm....This is a real continuity error....

[Rex]

Perhaps there are two types of Dry Bones, ones that are resistant to fire (Maybe living in bowsers castle gives them resistance?) and more flimsy ones that fall apart if exposed to it.

[shadowgoomba]

Could be...considering the ones weak to fire never seem to be around lava...
In SMRPG, they were in a sunken ship.
In PM, they were in Bowser's Castle, but not the lava rooms.
In SS they were in mountains and desert.
In TTYD, they were in the Palace of Shadow, without any lava.
And I don't remember where if anywhere they are in SPM or PiT.

[Rex]

In PiT they were in Yoobs Belly, no lava there.

I know they were in SPM, but I can't remember where.

[shadowgoomba]

Oh, yeah, Yoob's belly, I remember now.

[Rex]

Oh yeah, and in SPM they were found in the underwhere and the pit of 100 trials.

[PDoogan]

Jun 24, 2008 9:27:26 GMT -5 Rex said:

Perhaps there are two types of Dry Bones, ones that are resistant to fire (Maybe living in bowsers castle gives them resistance?) and more flimsy ones that fall apart if exposed to it.

Well there are more then one type, as PM2 revealed. (i.e: dull bones, dry bones, red bones, dark bones....)

[Rex]

I'm just saying the ones in RPG's don't live near fire, and would therefore have no resistance to it. While there are tons of dry bones around lava in the platformers, and they are imune to fire flowers.

[shadowgoomba]

What about Vomers though...they lived in a volcano.

[Meta Black Yoshi]

Um, just in case anyone was wondering... The dry bones in TTYD are just as weak against the fire attacks as the dull bones are :/

[kingkoopa]

Maybe Bowser puts anti-lava spells on the Dry Bones in his Castle

[Meta Black Yoshi]

Mybe Mario just had really weak fireballs back then. And latter his use of the fire ability began to increase his fire using skills with practice so he got better and better at it until it was strong enugh to badly damage bones. Or fireflower's got stronger, those are really the only explainations that make sense.

[shadowgoomba]

Not really, because NSMB seems recent chronologically to me seeing as it has Bowser Jr. in it, and fireballs don't do anything to Dry Bones...

[Meta Black Yoshi]

Are you saying that it is a "true fact" that NSMB happened after all the RPGs and it is not just a possibility that it did? I ask because I have not played through the story of that game and so I don't know about any of the cronilogical flag instances that might have been in it. But Bowser Jr being in it only meens that it came after Sunshine and there was no fire Mario in that game.